To others:
Just sometimes when we saw the insulting words about our country we can't keep our temper.I said that before,that it's just our nature custom to protect our country and people by overseas attack no matter who is our King.Sometimes such custom is misapplied in rude words and self-willed speaking which made situation worse and misunderstood by foreigners.I think that's why some westerner just call almost every chinese "brainwashed" or "Chicom" something.It's a mistake by different culture and expression way.
As for whether the King is good or evil,it's another totally different topic.Well,to tell the truth,most(not all) of the chinese think the King is good as a whole ,so it's not strange to see them defending the gov.t when they are defending the country and people.If that makes you determain our nature as "brainwashed" and "Chicom" then obviously there will be no "rational discourse" between both of us.
So if you want a "rational discourse" or "fair debate",stop making judgement before that. Show some respect and you will get much more from us,that's another important custom of chinese.
About those links which quoted by both side,I think they are not much helpful.I can find many more articles for both side.But who knows which is more close to the truth.It is sad there are no entirely righteous media in the world.Rumor,fake and biased news are everywhere,especilly in politics.
For many years I haven't trusted any thing I hear or even I saw.I just analyse it,not in childlike thought but practical and consequent way,that makes many things more clear in your eyes.
I am really tired of those insulting style of political topic these days.I would only reply when I saw posts which made me very angry or very grateful from now on,I guess.
You know,we are all "吃饱了没事干" or "闲得蛋疼“......If you really care about China and think you know China enough to debate it,you can find its meaning yourself. ^ ^
Why don’t you respond to a very reasonable post I sent your way on a different thread - if you care to ahve a discussion, that is? I see that you tend to avoid responding to posts (incl. on this thread) that challenge negative aspects of the CCP.
Hope you can prove me wrong.