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A Teleconference With John McCain
Right Wing News ^ | May 15, 2008 | John Hawkins

Posted on 05/15/2008 3:38:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Agree with you. He can now see that the border issue has to keep national security issues above any social or commercial aspect at this point.

41 posted on 05/15/2008 7:39:10 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: glock rocks
A really funny post, Glock. Made me really LOL.

Leni

42 posted on 05/15/2008 7:58:09 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wish McCain would stand to the Dems as much as he stands up to terrorist countries.


43 posted on 05/15/2008 8:19:44 PM PDT by Reader Poster
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To: B4Ranch
What are you? An eco terrorist? A multitasking rodeo rider trying to show the audience that the corruptness of the Dims and the lies of the Right are melded into one and the same political tune.





It helps to remember that the Clinton-Bush coziness goes back to the days of Iran-Contra, when Papa Bush was supervising covert arms shipments to Latin America out of Arkansas (with drugs making the return trip) and Governor Clinton was busy looking the other way. Further, as was clear during abortive Republican investigations into various Clinton scandals, in the culture of impunity of Washington, politics stops at corruption's edge. Almost all major corruption is either bipartisan or common enough that one side can effectively blackmail the other.

44 posted on 05/15/2008 8:33:28 PM PDT by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Norman Bates

The irony of someone named Norman Bates being a McCain apologist is priceless. The GOP has gone psycho.


45 posted on 05/15/2008 8:35:45 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Norm I agree that he puts does conditions. Let’s recall the conditions he laid down concerning taking care of our borders before naturalizing the illegal aliens. Is anyone here honestly thinking John is going to make sure those conditions are honestly met? And if so, do we want to legalize 25 million illegals and accept the 1 to 75 chain migrants each will bring in?

John’s preconditions are merely pawns on a chess-board. I don’t trust the guy at all.


46 posted on 05/15/2008 8:54:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, and always win, your nation will be destroyed.)
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To: glock rocks

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The president does.
You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on
appropriations. The House of Representatives does.
You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.
You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.
You and I don’t control monetary policy, The Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 300 million - are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress.
In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.
They have no legal authority.
They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton-picking thing.
I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall.
No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.

The president can only propose a budget.
He cannot force the Congress to accept it.
The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.

Who is the speaker of the House?
She is the leader of the majority party.
She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want.
If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility.

I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.

When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.
If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.
If the Marines are in Iraq , it’s because they want them in Iraq .

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.

Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like ‘the economy,’ ‘inflation’ or ‘politics’ that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
They, and they alone, have the power.
They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.
We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist
of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper


47 posted on 05/15/2008 8:57:52 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s the way I see it....Obama is a huge threat to this country.


48 posted on 05/15/2008 9:02:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Don't piss in my eye and tell me it's raining.

I didn't realize it was you.
49 posted on 05/15/2008 9:02:06 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: B4Ranch

Damn straight.


50 posted on 05/15/2008 9:02:15 PM PDT by glock rocks ( Woof.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
1. "Amnesty" = Bush / McCain / Kyl
2. Censorship = McCain-Thompson-Bush-Feingold
3. Gas Tax Increase = Gas tax holiday = Gas Tax Decrease
4. Kerry’s Proposed Democrat Ticket = Fantasy
5. Turncoat Who Asked to Switch Parties: McCain (R) / Jeffords (D)
6. McCain’s American Conservative Union Rank 2007 = Higher than every Dem
7. New York Times (D) Endorsed crapped on: McCain
8. Voted to extend Bush tax cuts = McCain + No Ds
9. McCain wants to keep lower the Death Tax
10. McCain wants to raise fix Social Security
11. McCain Bob Barr (D-ACLU/Occupation) is Pro-Terrorist Right
12. McCain/Kennedy(D)/Edwards(D) = No such law; Tobacco = smoke it
51 posted on 05/15/2008 9:16:45 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Screename envy.


52 posted on 05/15/2008 9:18:11 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Have you been in a box? I’ve hosted this ping list for well over a year.


53 posted on 05/15/2008 9:19:19 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

In my view, McCain has always been borderline nuts. His statements from the past few days have elevated him to the “certifiable” stage. This man is dangerous and would be one of the worst presidents this country has ever seen. His willingness to “cross the aisle” and “work with anyone” in order to govern show nothing but his stupidity and naivete. I do not understand how this corrupt, insane, rank politician has been able to continue to get reelected term after term with the kind of kooky krap he continually spews. I have long considered sitting out the November elections. Johnny boy’s global warming stance and his speech of Thursday have done nothing to bolster my belief that a McCain administration would be a bigger disaster than Carter. In fact, I truly believe he is dumber and more dangerous to this country than Jimmah ever was or is. I’ll take a one-term RAT over this bozo, thanks.


54 posted on 05/15/2008 9:23:21 PM PDT by thelastvirgil
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To: B4Ranch
Oh yeah, my fav is Republicans who run as “fiscal conservatives” laud how many millions they spend in their campaign literature...
55 posted on 05/15/2008 9:33:28 PM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: thelastvirgil

Yes, because you know it will just be one term. With that kind of conifdence you would make a fine player of Russian roulette.


56 posted on 05/15/2008 9:34:47 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

To be fair, he did not say they couldn’t be conservative democrats...There are one or two left.


57 posted on 05/15/2008 9:43:19 PM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: Norman Bates

Ironic that you use the Russian Roulette analogy. That is about as accurate a metaphor for the choices we face in November as I have yet heard. Either way it goes, we are screwed. I see no difference between a disastrous RAT administration and a disastrous McCain administration. It is going to be a very long four years — maybe even 8, as you suggest —, but the Republican party needs a good ass whoopin’ in order for them to realize that conservatism is not a disease. The current party leaders need a harsh, painful lesson and a huge dose of reality. If it takes a couple of RAT administrations to bring the party back, that is a small price to pay. No McCain in ‘08.


58 posted on 05/15/2008 9:46:38 PM PDT by thelastvirgil
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To: thelastvirgil
I see no difference between a disastrous RAT administration and a disastrous McCain administration.

You must give me the name of your occulist.

the Republican party country needs a good ass whoopin’ in order for them to realize that conservatism is not a disease.

Yep let's throw the whole country overboard on a whim. Wait. That's stupid. A couple of RAT administrations will put us all in dire straits to make the Clinton years look fond.
59 posted on 05/15/2008 9:53:35 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You nailed it. So many here don’t see it. IMO, we are going to go through a lot of changes beyond our control over the next four years. We need someone who is stable to lead us through these times. Somewhat like Gerald Ford after the Nixon debacle. He didn’t do anything but he was able to maintain stability in troubled times.


60 posted on 05/15/2008 9:57:57 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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