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HOUSE GOPERS STOMPING MAD OVER PROSPECTS (GOP in self-destruct mode)
MSNBC ^ | 5/14/2008 | Mike Viqueira

Posted on 05/14/2008 10:08:52 AM PDT by tobyhill

Lot's of very glum faces among House GOP members this morning as they emerged from their weekly closed-door session. The political situation is not good, and they aren't even trying to deny it.

Rep. Tom Davis stomped on the concrete floor of the Capitol basement when asked by reporters about Republican fortunes at the moment.

"This is the floor," he said, by way of explanation. "We're below the floor."

Inside the meeting, Davis had just presented his colleagues with what he said was a 20-page memo outlining his prescription for a way out of this mess. He did not offer details to the press, yet did not spare the party and the president scathing criticism in his public comments.

"The president swallows the microphone every time he opens his mouth," Davis said.

He believes Bush's staunch opposition to the Democratic housing bill and the SCHIP bill, for example, is hurting rank and file. Look at yesterday's vote on the SPRO, where Republicans defied the president in droves. Lo and behold, the White House says today that it will not veto the bill.

Today is also the day when the House takes up the farm bill, which the president has promised to veto. It’s expected that this will become the second veto of Bush's administration to be overridden -- though the farm bill has more of a parochial dynamic than the national political one.

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...


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To: stockpirate

Let us know when the RNC calls and apologizes for pissing you off.


41 posted on 05/14/2008 10:43:39 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Pietro

The primary reason to support Republicans at this point is because they would gladly preserve the semi-Socialist status quo, while the Democrats would move to impose the full-blown variety, given a chance. A sip of poison - or the full cup. Oh, and this year’s “Sip of Poison” Party candidate hates our guts, too. It does suck to be a Conservative right now....


42 posted on 05/14/2008 10:46:46 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace Is Not The Question.)
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To: JimSEA
I will NOT vote for McLame EVER. I'll let the GOP rot and then when they decide they will return to their Conservative principles I will vote again.

RINO RMSP Mission Statement ****At that time, there was great concern that a dramatic shift to the right was quickly approaching, given the new congressional leadership. The discussion group began to craft a moderate Republican agenda with a fiscally conservative background.****

43 posted on 05/14/2008 10:47:16 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: dr.zaeus

This is the crowd that thought they could rid themselves of conservatives in 2006 and blame them for the losses.

They were too ignorant to see that it would only get worse. Once their constituents have lost trust that they are hearing them, they are dead meat. People don’t usually vote for people over and over again who work against their best interests.


44 posted on 05/14/2008 10:48:19 AM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: tobyhill

The GOP learned NOTHING from Reagan. Now reap the whirlwind.


45 posted on 05/14/2008 10:48:46 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: stockpirate
This is great news for conservatives.

Did you read the article? Our congressional delegation is pushing the president to sign Democrat legislation that should be vetoed

They still don't get it.
46 posted on 05/14/2008 10:49:15 AM PDT by Antoninus (Siblings are the greatest gift parents give their children.)
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To: Puppage

This is pure crap. Those bills have big price tags attached to them. This idiot, Davis is criticizing Bush for not spending more.


47 posted on 05/14/2008 10:51:02 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Paige
Instead of starting a new party (as many conservatives have suggested), Now is the time for the Conservatives to jump in and take control.

The big business special interest groups that control the GOP would never let that happen. The GOP is a tool used by big business to further its own interests.

It's a myth that the GOP ever represented conservative values -- not even during the Reagan years.

To preserve the myth, the GOP would occasionally through conservatives a bone, but only when the bone wouldn't hurt big business interests.

48 posted on 05/14/2008 10:51:09 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: tobyhill
Well, if any of them are reading this (which I doubt), you lost me when you abandoned smaller, less intrusive government and defense of the Bill of Rights as top issues.

Maybe if I hire lobbyists to pay them millions of dollars, they will return those planks to the GOP platform.

Oh, and stop borrowing and spending, too.
49 posted on 05/14/2008 10:51:45 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Calvin Locke

I think that Rush is right, as usual. The RNC Leadership (fine oxymoron, that) apparently needs to be Tasered back to reality, which I expect the shock of November will provide.


50 posted on 05/14/2008 10:52:44 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace Is Not The Question.)
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To: tobyhill

When your choice is between a RAT who is a RAT and a Pubbie who acts like a RAT why not vote for a RAT and get the real deal.


51 posted on 05/14/2008 10:54:00 AM PDT by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: dynachrome

I’m appalled beyond belief. Where’s the ASPCA? Where’s Peta? Where is liberal outrage? Is that blood coming out of the poor elephant’s ear?


52 posted on 05/14/2008 10:58:30 AM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: tobyhill

I miss Tom Delay. He would’nt stomp around like a two year old blaming his mistakes on his brother.


53 posted on 05/14/2008 10:59:37 AM PDT by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: tobyhill

“I have to hand it to the Rats, they have successfully neutered the GOP leadership.....”

IMHO, it may not be possible for a conservative agenda to get anywhere near DC at this point. There are so many feeding at the trough, that they are able to confuse,interfere with, demoralize and obfuscate the agenda, the implementation of any agenda, that runs contrary to their interests. This is far bigger than just RINOS vs.Conservatives. This is Conservatives being shut out (or thrown out as in the case of Tom Delay) of DC entirely.


54 posted on 05/14/2008 10:59:49 AM PDT by mo
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To: Lurking in Kansas
If they are blaming Bush, it just shows how out of touch they still are.

You're the one that's out of touch.

Inspiration wins primaries and elections. Fortunately it worked for Reagan and unfortunately it's working for Obama.

Bush isn't inspiring at all. Worse, he's an embarassment to the nation and the GOP. What comes out of his mouth is bilge. George Bush is the loser that should have been gotten rid of in 2004. He makes us, and every value we think important all look bad.

The best we can do, the very best, is to agree with the 70+% of the American people that think Bush stinks and find some way to completely break with him before the election. Oh sure, it would only be symbolic, but it would it prove that we aren't all blind. Instead, we're all going down with the ship.

The problem is that there are too many here that just can't admit the obvious -- that Bush is damn moron. And he's branding the rest of us morons through association.

55 posted on 05/14/2008 11:00:28 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: Lurking in Kansas
If they are blaming Bush, it just shows how out of touch they still are.

You're the one that's out of touch.

Inspiration wins primaries and elections. Fortunately it worked for Reagan and unfortunately it's working for Obama.

Bush isn't inspiring at all. Worse, he's an embarassment to the nation and the GOP. What comes out of his mouth is bilge. George Bush is the loser that should have been gotten rid of in 2004. He makes us, and every value we think important all look bad.

The best we can do, the very best, is to agree with the 70+% of the American people that think Bush stinks and find some way to completely break with him before the election. Oh sure, it would only be symbolic, but it would it prove that we aren't all blind. Instead, we're all going down with the ship.

The problem is that there are too many here that just can't admit the obvious -- that Bush is damn moron. And he's branding the rest of us morons through association.

56 posted on 05/14/2008 11:00:46 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: tobyhill
He believes Bush's staunch opposition to the Democratic housing bill and the SCHIP bill, for example, is hurting rank and file. Look at yesterday's vote on the SPRO, where Republicans defied the president in droves. Lo and behold, the White House says today that it will not veto the bill.

It's hard to imagine how these people could be more out of touch with reality.

The formerly grand OLD party has completely Whigged out.

57 posted on 05/14/2008 11:00:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The formerly grand OLD party has completely Whigged out.( Join the new one: SelfGovernment.US))
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To: tobyhill

Tom Davis, my rep, is a prime example of why the Republican Party finds itself in dire straits. He supported statehood for DC!


58 posted on 05/14/2008 11:01:12 AM PDT by IGOTMINE (1911s FOREVER!)
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To: dr.zaeus
We need to be more like liberal Democrats so that we can keep getting elected; conservatism be damned!

That's what it sounds like to me. God have mercy.

59 posted on 05/14/2008 11:01:57 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: All

Really simple: Republicans should come out loudly and proudly for drilling and refining in our country. Secondly, they should come out loudly and proudly for denying benefits to anyone in this country illegally. If you make these 2 simple points the focus of your platform and unflinchingly deliver this message to the American people, you will win.


60 posted on 05/14/2008 11:04:09 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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