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Classical music's twentieth-century tragedy
Timesonline.co.uk ^
| April 30, 2008
| Ian Bostridge
Posted on 05/04/2008 6:35:19 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: HoosierHawk
Related “ping” to you. :)
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posted on
05/04/2008 6:43:16 PM PDT
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: forkinsocket
somehow the "malaise" classical music afficionadoes feel is the fault of rich American white men. I can just tell.
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The Pope happens to prefer classical music.
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posted on
05/04/2008 6:47:04 PM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
(what is it you hope to find here?)
To: forkinsocket
I’m calling BS
Classical music is alive and well and finds new audiences all the time AND modern rock and roll, all modern music.. is based on the “call and response” pattern of western classical composition
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posted on
05/04/2008 6:51:43 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: forkinsocket
Ping for later read while I listen to one of my 6000 classical LPs...
To: forkinsocket
Thank you for posting this. I did a thesis on a similar topic called “The Industrialization of Music,” which I feel began around the time of Mozart and Beethoven, and then swept the landscape after the French Revolution. Very interesting topic. And a little sad for me, as I watched the Classical Era begin to disintegrate before my very eyes in the history books. I was torn: it seemed to coincide with the demise of the aristocracy and the new “liberty” of the coming world and, while I believed deeply into the concept of liberty, I also felt some grief for the beginning of the demise of Classical Music. A real conundrum.
Bookmarking. This is a good article.
Cheers.
To: forkinsocket
I have also heard it argued that realistic art was killed off for half a century precisely because of the appreciation Hitler and Stalin had for it. That is why, so the argument goes, we have had to put up with dots and smears masquerading as art for so long.
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posted on
05/04/2008 6:59:35 PM PDT
by
SeeSharp
To: forkinsocket
We don’t have a large collection of classical cd’s, but classical music is mr sneakers and my music of choice, along with Latin Mass music (Tallis, Palestrina, etc)
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posted on
05/04/2008 6:59:47 PM PDT
by
sneakers
(Liberty is the answer to the human condition.)
To: mylife
Classical music is alive and well and finds new audiences... You are right about new audiences for the old great composers, but where are the new great composers?
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posted on
05/04/2008 7:03:40 PM PDT
by
SeeSharp
To: forkinsocket; All
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posted on
05/04/2008 7:04:46 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: EggsAckley
If the record companies don’t figure out a way to make money in the age of Internet file sharing, a return to music supported by patronage may be in our future.
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posted on
05/04/2008 7:06:46 PM PDT
by
SeeSharp
To: SeeSharp
Oddly, they’re in Hollywood and Japan, composing film scores (because the stupid elitists won’t accept any “new” classical-styled music).
Check out Eguchi Takahito’s work from the Trinity Blood soundtrack... or the Full Metal Alchemist soundtracks (all three of them).
Or Danny Elfman’s “Music For A Darkened Theatre” series.
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posted on
05/04/2008 7:08:44 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: SeeSharp
Well, as Bach Himself said...”Show me the money, then I will compose” L0L
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posted on
05/04/2008 7:08:49 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Thanks, I'll have to read it later.
On an unrelated note, did you see this earlier today?
To: forkinsocket
Hmm, what about Hollywood movie scores?
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posted on
05/04/2008 7:10:39 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Vicious Babushka)
To: SeeSharp
Well, today everyone wants to be a star. Who wants to play someone else’s music? My sister plays classical flute beautifully. But if there’s not a sheet of music in front of her, she’s musically mute!
Interesting!
To: forkinsocket
I also call BS.
Classical music was simply the best music that could be written in its day, being an exercise in the management of the sound assets offered by an orchestra made up individual artists using very specialised instruments.
Make no mistake: if Mozart is reincarnate amongst us, he is using Cakewalk and synthesizers.
As a metaphor, consider the Amish - they claim to not want to use "modern technology", yet the technology they use was quite modern only a few hundred years ago, so the Amish aren't against "modern technology" per-se or they wouldn't be using the modern plow, horse harnesses, grain mills, etc.
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posted on
05/04/2008 7:11:02 PM PDT
by
chilepepper
(The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
To: SeeSharp
Oh, they can make money. It’s called the iTunes Music Store.
It’s just that they can’t make those obscene profit margins any more...
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posted on
05/04/2008 7:11:35 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: SeeSharp
where are the new great composers? Howard Shore, John Williams?
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posted on
05/04/2008 7:11:56 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Vicious Babushka)
To: chilepepper
See Paul Oakenfold’s work for a *great* example of this.
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posted on
05/04/2008 7:12:44 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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