Posted on 04/27/2008 2:42:03 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
I have made this case many times. The imperfection of biology suggests evolution, rather than ID/Creationism. In fact, the complexity of biological processes that is the main pillar of ID, is really an argument AGAINST ID.
A supernatural being/God doesn’t have to create through complexity. It/He is not subject to the laws of nature. Nature, on the other hand, must obey the laws of physics.
I have made this case many times. The imperfection of biology suggests evolution, rather than ID/Creationism. In fact, the complexity of biological processes that is the main pillar of ID, is really an argument AGAINST ID.
A supernatural being/God doesn’t have to create through complexity. It/He is not subject to the laws of nature. Nature, on the other hand, must obey the laws of physics.
To prove that evolution is imperfect you double posted your reply. Right?
This website has hiccups, not the posters fault.
This reminds me of the theory that wings evolved because of the natural advantage that flight gave birds. However, unless one generation of birds emerged with fully functional wings, those many many generations with partially formed non functional wings would have been at a serious disadvantage, and yet we have birds all over the place.
The presence of hiccups no more disproves the existence of God than does the existence of liberals or other religious bigots.
Sore, WV? Where is that. I live near the Rio Mall (pronounced RY’O, since this is WV)...
Except for spermatogenesis, which requires a temperature lower than internal. Back to school for you, budding biologist.
“The imperfection of biology suggests ...”
Spotting “imperfections” would require an understanding of Creation that no man can posess.
“A supernatural being/God doesn’t have to create through complexity.”
“Complexity” is a reletive term. Anyone who can understand all of Creation may not regard it as bing all that complex.
Calm Down. No one is trying to "disprove the existance of God". No one suggests thet wings formed complete in one step. There is evidence in the fossil record and animals alive today that have vestigal wings unsuitable for flight. Why would God "design" an ostrich with wings if he didn't want it to fly?
evolution, OK; Evolution, mot so much. God does in fact work more through nature and the natural law He ordains than through “miracles”.
It’s quite a leap of faith to lay all to blind chance.
Imperfections are called "disease". It is spotted all of the time. At the time of Jesus, everyone thought that infectious disease was caused by angering God. Now we know it is caused by microbes. Penicillin has cured more people than all of the saints combined (except Archie Manning).
Until someone has EVIDENCE for an alternative theory, natural selection is the best we have.
I had a friend demonstrate the TOE for me. He took an old pocket watch and placed it in a cloth bag. He laid it on a table and beat the bag with a hammer, destroying the watch inside.
He then shook the bag, and shook the bag, and then poured it onto the table. His statement still rings true..." there is a better chance of the watch coming out whole, than man having evolved from a spark in the ether..."
There is no "natural selection". There is just a "theory" about it...
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The brain, superior to any computer made today.
The eye, superior to any camera made today.
To create a self reproducing robot with all the attributes of man, is way beyond our ability for a long time to come.
And you base evolution on a hiccup.
I think he understands that.
He probably doesn’t see a reason that they would move all the way down there over the course of time. Why wasn’t the original point sufficient? It must have worked at it’s original point?
If the new point outside the main part of the body didn’t happen all at once, how many millions of years would it take for this accident to happen, and what possible benefit could there be during the journey, to make the accidental slight movement an advantage, and worthwhile?
LOL - well said.
god created us in his image... flatulence was a way for man to amuse himself before he learned how to make gameboys... evidence in the painting of god having his finger pulled by adam...
as for hernias... i am doing extensive research compiling lots of taxpayers money which shows that men suffer more hernias than women because they lift heavier things...
as for hiccups... again... god thinks of everything... how else could an ignorant man know when he has had too much to drink...
teeman
the argument should be where life began, In the begining, there was nothing, How can something come from nothing. A big bang? From what?
the origins of life... its takes nore faith to believe that something came from absolute nothing than created by an eternal God... (even though my mind goes to Who created God even though he always was, my finite mind has a hard tine grasping the beginning assuming all things have a starting point.)
the beginning... when there was nothing. All matter has to be created or to have come from some pre-existing matter for any proccess live evolution to start. A big bang needed to have at least some form of matter to have the bang no?
think about it...
something from nothing... I’m not buying it. Then there is “reason, spirit, emotion. Sorry, I also don’t buy mixing chemicals together will create reason and spirit. If life is so easy to create spontaneously, how is it the smart scientists have not yet created life by mixing the raw components of life together to create life?
mind boggling...
and birds are flightless because they choose to be... god gave them wings for man to barbecue them and cause flatulence...
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