Look at the guy who replaced Wright, they even have the same bowtie thing going, these people are Farrakhan with a Cross around their neck.
Posted on 04/07/2008 2:29:18 PM PDT by Timeout
Today I came across this year-old, largely biographical article about Barack Obama. It reads as though Lizza relied on Obama for large chunks of the piece, with other material coming from his books and interviews with those who knew him.
About 2/3's down the page, I came across this astonishing nugget:
After many lectures like this, Obama decided to take a second look at Wright's church. Older pastors warned him that Trinity was for "Buppies"--black urban professionals--and didn't have enough street cred. But Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinity's guiding principles--what the church calls the "Black Value System"--included a "Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.'"Wright is a "former Muslim"?!
I've never seen this anywhere else. Where did Lizza get it....from Obama? From Wright (whom he apparently interviewed)?
Have any of you ever heard that before?
Thanks Timeout.
Bookmarked... thanks
Congratulations on finding a story that got read by Rush!
You just got a mention on Jim Quinn’s show this morning. He described you as an “astute blogger.”
bump!
{{{blush}}}
Now I've come across this old Nick Kristoff column in the NYT [hat tip NRO's Campaign Spot].
It, too, is from March, 2007, the same time as the TNR piece. In this one there is no question but that the statements came directly from Obama himself.
In foreign policy as well, Mr. Obama would bring to the White House an important experience that most other candidates lack: he has actually lived abroad. He spent four years as a child in Indonesia and attended schools in the Indonesian language, which he still speaks.[Ha Ha. Only us hicks in Alabama are bothered by all this~!]“I was a little Jakarta street kid,” he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, www.nytimes.com/ontheground). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them.
[In the interview] Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
Moreover, Mr. Obama’s own grandfather in Kenya was a Muslim. Mr. Obama never met his grandfather and says he isn’t sure if his grandfather’s two wives were simultaneous or consecutive, or even if he was Sunni or Shiite. (O.K., maybe Mr. Obama should just give up on Alabama.)
So now we have two sources from the same timeframe (March 07), apparently based on interviews with Obama, wherein there was free ranging discussion of his and Wright's Muslim backgrounds. This could not have been a mistake...it was at exactly the time he was launching his campaign.
But now, a year later, the only time the media addreses the Muslim issue is to lambaste anyone who brings it up (No middle names!. He DID NOT study in a madrassas!).
I can think of many more sounds that he could have picked. What about a baby cooing? He picked this sound to rub our noses in it.
Don’t you love the writer’s description...”delightfully uncalculated”?
More like....”deliberately provocative”.
Look at the guy who replaced Wright, they even have the same bowtie thing going, these people are Farrakhan with a Cross around their neck.
Have you seen this?
I have heard it many times, but to be honest, I have never seen it documented. Having said that, he sure acts like it—GGG
I can’t get that image to play, but I saw Moss on TV once and parts of his Easter Sunday sermon where he compared Wright to Jesus, no different from the rants of Wright himself if you ask me.
Google:
“Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist”
BTTT and bookmarked
BTTT for background on 0bama/Wright/NOI.
How Closet Muslims are Possible [“al-Taqiyya”]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2496737/posts?page=1033#1033
Revered Jeremiah Wright, “former Muslim” (?!)
[This thread]
THe New Republic | March 07 | Ryan Lizza
[Is Wright a closet muslim?]
Compelling Evidence that Obama is likely to be a closet Muslim [or pretending to be]
http://www.commentsonnationalamnesia.com/2010/08/01/muslim-or-not-you-decide
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2565368/posts?page=16#16
[Also note the research in post 16]
[Obama’s bowing problem is legendary.]
Former NASA chief: Muslim outreach is ‘perversion’ of NASA’s mission
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2547701/posts
How Obama got into Harvard [Jack Cashill]
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=158901
“The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas,” Sutton said. “He is the principal adviser to one of the world’s richest men [Saudi prince Al-Waleed bin Talal]. He told me about Obama.”
Obama to skip 9/11 Ground Zero ceremony
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2584715/posts
“Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit”
Barack Hussein Obama
“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country”
Barack Hussein Obama
“I have lived in a Muslim-majority country... I know, because I am one of them.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one’s religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“We are not nor have we even been at war with Islam”
Barack Hussein Obama
Bump! I should have included you in post 78.
In other words, it's nothing but eighteenth century European "enlightenment" rationalism dressed up in non-"western" garb.
It's most ironic that lefties love "indigenous pipples" and hate rednecks when rednecks and "indigenous pipples" have much more in common than either does with "enlightenment" leftists.
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