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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)
Go San Angelo ^ | 5 April 08 | Paul A. Anthony

Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.

The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.

The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.

The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.

Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.

“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”

Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.

Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.

“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”

Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.

Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.

The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.

“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”

The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.

The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.

Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.

“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.

Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.

No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.

Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.

“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cult; flds; jeffs; lds; lyingfreepers; mormon; mormonism; pitcairnisland; pologamy; polygamy; romney; soapoperaresty; warrenjeffs
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To: SkyPilot

Good morning Sky...

Those are pretty kitties..

:)


2,961 posted on 04/14/2008 5:28:33 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Please don’t confuse coerced with being GULLIBLE.


2,962 posted on 04/14/2008 5:33:22 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: bonfire

GULLIBLE = Common sense has taken flight..

:)


2,963 posted on 04/14/2008 5:41:22 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Enosh
For example, if we believe that the Nephilim arose from divine mated (physically) with human, why not Jesus?

I, for one, sure do NOT believe this!!


 
 Getting into whether ENOCH is accurate is beyond this thread, but I can merely point out this:
 

NIV Matthew 22:29-30
 29.  Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.
 30.  At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
 
I can only assume that there will be no sexual relations in heaven [since the Bible states that only in marriage are they permitted]  and, by inference, that ANGELS do not have sexual relations, therefore they did NOT have relations with 'mortal women'.
 
 
 
 
The Genesis account is here:
 




NIV Genesis 1:26-27
 26.  Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
 27.  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
 
 
NIV Genesis 5:1-5
 1.  This is the written account of Adam's line.   When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God.
 2.  He created them male and female and blessed them. And when they were created, he called them "man. "
 3.  When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth.
 4.  After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.
 5.  Altogether, Adam lived 930 years, and then he died.
 
 
NIV Genesis 6:1-8
 1.  When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them,
 2.  the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.
 3.  Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with  man forever, for he is mortal ; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."
 4.  The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
 5.  The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.
 6.  The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain.
 7.  So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face of the earth--men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and birds of the air--for I am grieved that I have made them."
 8.  But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.
 
 
This verse...
 
 Genesis 6:4.  The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
 
...says NOTHING about the N  being the OFFSPRING of the SoG and the DoM: they were ALREADY there!
 
 
SoG are the offspring from the early Adam/Eve lineage and the DoM are the offspring from the LATER Adam/Eve lineage, nothing more.

 
NIV Numbers 13:33
  We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."
 
EVERYTHING got wiped by the flood: there was NO WAY for these supposed 'angelic' offspring to have survived to THIS point in time.
 

 
 
Topics: Nephi'lim
 
Text:  Gen. 6:4; Num. 13:33, R.V.), giants, the Hebrew word left untranslated by the Revisers, the name of one of the Canaanitish tribes. The Revisers have, however, translated the Hebrew gibborim, in Gen. 6:4, "mighty men."
 
 



NIV Jude 1:6
  And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.
 
Nothing HERE about angels MATING with humans, either.


2,964 posted on 04/14/2008 6:12:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Like the Mormons who come to my door and WON'T take NO! for an answer?

Or...

Like ELSIE who pings on these threads and WON'T take SILENCE for an answer?

2,965 posted on 04/14/2008 6:13:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem
Because Jesus is not from a “mating” by sexual union.

I thought the Mormons had a DIFFERENT take on this?

2,966 posted on 04/14/2008 6:14:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla

NOW who’s being catty??


2,967 posted on 04/14/2008 6:16:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Nothing HERE about angels MATING with humans, either.
____________________________________________

The angels dont “mate” at all..

For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Matthew 22:30

Oh, golly gosh...

In Heaven, humans dont either...


2,968 posted on 04/14/2008 6:25:17 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

Like ELSIE who pings on these threads and WON’T take SILENCE for an answer?
___________________________________________

Weeks of SILENCED is good...

Just means that the mormon answered the question you should have asked as well as the one you did...

You were right...they have nothing left to say...

They take their fairy tales and leave the field...


2,969 posted on 04/14/2008 6:29:34 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie
How did you teach your cat how to 'translate' like Joseph Smith!!

ROTFL!.....just giving "Cat in the Hat" a new meaning!

2,970 posted on 04/14/2008 6:42:20 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?)
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To: computerjunkie
I pray God’s light will shine through the darkness.

Amen.

2,971 posted on 04/14/2008 6:44:17 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?)
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To: conservativegramma; SkyPilot

Youse guys is killin’ me! ROTFL!


2,972 posted on 04/14/2008 6:47:24 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?)
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To: Godzilla
And the one on the left is composing the Book of Mewman

Is his angel Meow-my a Viking Kitty angel?

2,973 posted on 04/14/2008 6:52:37 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Morning Nana. :)


2,974 posted on 04/14/2008 6:55:22 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: CindyDawg; All
Thank you to all who offered support and prayers for Carissa yesterday. Forgive the “all” lumping, but I don't have time to respond to each of you personally today.

She passed on about 1:20 in the afternoon, with her family around her singing her favorite children's hymns. She was the sweetest soul I ever met. She is free now from the constraints of her disabilities and body. I'm a little envious.

Thank you all! Christ lives and loves us all, that I know beyond all doubt.

Sevenbak

2,975 posted on 04/14/2008 7:27:36 AM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: Elsie

Of course they do, but of course they are wrong.
they claim Jesus Christ is spirit brother to
satan, who got a human being flesh body by sexual union of Mary with god -or with “Adam” who was god, if you go back to the original claims, anyway, which are now not mentioned, and so the younger generations of them have no idea that it was ever taught that way, as it iskept hidden from them.

Their teaching of the incarnation of Jesus Christ [who is YHWH, the Word, come in human flesh] is blasphemous, and would make Jesus Christ a son of fornication in an Adam flesh body; but that is exactly what the nephillim were.
The Word of God is not confused about the creation of the second human being flesh body for YHWH, Who, in the Person of the Word, is come incarnate in a new creation human being body which was prepared for His incarnation in the womb of a virgin.
Coming in the likeness of sinful Adam [stripped bare naked of the Glory He had with the Father before the world was, and so, naked like Adam became, when he fell and became vanity in his nakedness -which shame of his nakedness, missing the Glory and purpose, made vain, he tried to cover with fig leaves], but without sin; He is then YHWH come in the flesh body of the second creation Son of God, of the human kind, and the only Living Son of God, of the human kind, and the only created brother to Adam.

To teach what the doctrine of those who claim that Jesus was born of a sexual union, as I said, is blasphemous, and would make the LORD Jesus Christ come in a cursed Adam flesh body, which then would never be able to redeem Adam kind from death because He would have had no life to give, being dead like Adam.

Mary no more had a sexual union with the Holy Spirit than the earth did have with the Holy spirit, when the body of flesh was formed in it for the first human being son of God to wear, who was made a living soul.
But the second Man is YHWH from heaven, who created all things and He is come in a second creation body of human flesh, which He wears as we wear garments [Isaiah 59], and in which He died in, rose in, ascended in, received the Glory in, and is returning in [Rev 19, shows Him returniing in the garment of human flesh in which He was “baptized in blood/death].


2,976 posted on 04/14/2008 7:33:53 AM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: sevenbak

Prayers for your family, sb. God bless little sweet Carissa.


2,977 posted on 04/14/2008 7:39:28 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: bonfire

Morning bonfire

:)


2,978 posted on 04/14/2008 7:46:48 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: sevenbak

Seven,

I’m sorry to hear about Carissa...


2,979 posted on 04/14/2008 7:58:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: sevenbak

I’m sure the angels welcomed Carissa. Prayers for your family.


2,980 posted on 04/14/2008 8:17:01 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?)
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