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Megaherbs Flourished In Antarctica
ABC Science News ^ | 3-19-2008 | Stephen Pincock

Posted on 03/27/2008 7:23:10 PM PDT by blam

Megaherbs flourished in Antarctica

Wednesday, 19 March 2008
Stephen Pincock, ABC

This daisy-like 'megaherb' may have once grown in Antarctica 2 million years ago before spreading north when the last ice age started (Source: David Norton)

Giant flowers found on Australia and New Zealand's sub-Antarctic islands are probably survivors of lush forests that covered Antarctica before the beginning of the last ice age nearly 2 million years ago, scientists say.

The flowers, known to researchers as megaherbs, grow abundantly on the tiny windswept islands such as the Snares, Auckland and Campbell island groups.

Dr Steve Wagstaff from Landcare Research in New Zealand and his team publish their work online on the Nature Precedings pre-print service.

The researchers were particularly interested in species of giant daisies known as Pleurophyllum.

The plants form enormous arrangements of leaves, topped by clusters of lavender coloured flowers up to a metre tall.

"They're very large, robust herbaceous plants, with really big, broad leaves," Wagstaff says. "That's really how they got the name megaherbs."

To track how they arrived on the islands and whether they came from Antarctica, the researchers compared the genetic makeup of the megaherbs to those of related plant species found in Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere.

"There's always been a great deal of discussion about how plants spread in the southern hemisphere and the extent to which Antarctica has been important in this," says co-author Dr Chris Quinn from the Royal Botanic Gardens in Sydney.

Combining that data with information from fossils, the researchers calibrated a 'molecular clock' that told them how long ago the different plant species had diverged from one another.

"When you put all this together it looks like this particular group was probably on Antarctica before the last ice age, and that they migrated by stepping stones onto the sub-Antarctic islands," Quinn says.

As the ice age began some 1.8 million years ago, conditions on Antarctica itself became inhospitable to many plants.

But the small islands further north offered a haven for survival just beyond the icy reach of the glaciers, the authors say.

From there, they continued evolving into smaller species and migrating further north into New Zealand and probably Australia, Wagstaff says.

"This is very definitely a case of hopping across long distances of ocean."

Exactly how the plants travelled north from Antarctica isn't clear, the authors say.

It may be that wind carried their seeds, or that ocean birds transported them from island to island.

"Perhaps the seeds get caught up in the feathers of these birds when they're nesting and then get carried off and dumped somewhere else," Quinn says.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antarctica; catastrophism; eltanin; eltaninimpact; flemath; godsgravesglyphs; iceaged; megaherbs; plants
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1 posted on 03/27/2008 7:23:11 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 03/27/2008 7:23:30 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Did someone say Mega Herb? Roll me a fatty.

3 posted on 03/27/2008 7:30:35 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Global cooling ping.


4 posted on 03/27/2008 7:39:38 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: blam
The plant itself looks quite interesting. I used to move lots of material when I used to work at a nursery and these would sell...hmmm wonder what it would take. :)

Intriguing.

5 posted on 03/27/2008 8:02:12 PM PDT by eldoradude (Think for yourself!)
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To: Army Air Corps; Yehuda

L O L ! ! ! , ... & leave-it-to You , Army , to get me laughing on a “legit” science thread

btw ,.. .. I can just hear “Dave The Knave” Paterson ...

“don’t gimmee nun’uh dat SHAKE , .. BUDS!!! , *crack’uh”


6 posted on 03/27/2008 8:27:29 PM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: Dad yer funny
leave-it-to You , Army , to get me laughing on a “legit” science thread

Its in my contract.
7 posted on 03/27/2008 8:35:10 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Dad yer funny

All jokes aside, it is an interesting article.


8 posted on 03/27/2008 8:35:45 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: blam

Oh, I get it. The Earth’s temperature needs to raise significantly to return to normal.


9 posted on 03/27/2008 10:11:35 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (It's too bad I've already promised myself to never vote for McCain.)
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To: blam
What with the ice shelves breaking off Antarctica should be
back to its balmy self in no time with lush fields of megaherbs.
The penguins can retire those silly black and white jump suits in favor of flip-flops and Speedos before long and don the winter gear only when the tourist trade shows up.
By the way, I have the purple flower concession locked up.
10 posted on 03/27/2008 11:37:54 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Climate change.

 


11 posted on 03/28/2008 3:22:21 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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Thanks blam.
"This is very definitely a case of hopping across long distances of ocean." Exactly how the plants travelled north from Antarctica isn't clear, the authors say. It may be that wind carried their seeds, or that ocean birds transported them from island to island. "Perhaps the seeds get caught up in the feathers of these birds when they're nesting and then get carried off and dumped somewhere else," Quinn says.
Maybe the 2+ million year old beech tree fossils found in Antarctica -- but carried by the winds from elsewhere -- dislodged the seeds upon impact, and they hurtled across the sea.
 
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12 posted on 03/28/2008 8:08:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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13 posted on 03/28/2008 8:09:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: Army Air Corps

David Schwimmer’s evil twin?


14 posted on 03/28/2008 8:37:46 AM PDT by dsc
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To: freedomfiter2
The Earth’s temperature needs to raise significantly to return to normal.

Bingo!

15 posted on 03/28/2008 9:07:04 AM PDT by null and void (It's 3 AM, do you know where Hillary is? Does she know where Bill is? Does Bill know what 'is' is?)
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To: SunkenCiv
Maybe the 2+ million year old beech tree fossils found in Antarctica -- but carried by the winds from elsewhere -- dislodged the seeds upon impact, and they hurtled across the sea.

It wuz the Flood, it wuz...

16 posted on 03/28/2008 9:08:43 AM PDT by null and void (It's 3 AM, do you know where Hillary is? Does she know where Bill is? Does Bill know what 'is' is?)
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I wonder if Glade uses the scent yet?


17 posted on 03/28/2008 9:19:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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I wouldn’t doubt that they are working on it.


18 posted on 03/28/2008 9:24:27 AM PDT by null and void (It's 3 AM, do you know where Hillary is? Does she know where Bill is? Does Bill know what 'is' is?)
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To: blam
Giant flowers found on Australia and New Zealand's sub-Antarctic islands are probably survivors of lush forests that covered Antarctica before the beginning of the last ice age nearly 2 million years ago, scientists say.

Maybe I missed something along the way, but 2 million years ago???


19 posted on 03/28/2008 1:30:18 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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Frozen dinosaur backs Antarctic land-bridge theory.SOURCE.

The fossilised remains of a duck-billed dinosaur and an ancient bird have been found in Antarctica, boosting theories that the continent was once linked to modern day America.


20 posted on 03/28/2008 9:25:55 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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