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Live Replay of SCOTUS Oral Arguments in DC v. Heller (2A case)
C-SPAN ^ | March 18, 2007 | C-SPAN

Posted on 03/18/2008 9:25:56 AM PDT by NinoFan

http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; dc; guns; heller; parker; scotus
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To: Domandred

Roberts is hitting on age requirements. They are giving the case to Gura and he’s choking a bit. Come on Gura, get it together!!!


162 posted on 03/18/2008 10:44:45 AM PDT by BCR #226 (The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Vermont carry.

That’s what I want.


163 posted on 03/18/2008 10:45:02 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (!)
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To: BCR #226

If you can get drafted into the military at 18....


164 posted on 03/18/2008 10:45:46 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Of COURSE there should be a licensing procedure.

That's debateable. I don't mind yanking rights if someone screws up, but not sure about general licensing.

165 posted on 03/18/2008 10:45:49 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Domandred

Agreed, licensing leads to Governmental control that is too infringing.


166 posted on 03/18/2008 10:46:32 AM PDT by BCR #226 (The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

“....can they withdraw?”

No. Both then, and all cases heard thereafter, are bound to the legal precedent set by the decision. Only in certain instances can an amendment to the Constitution, a law enacted by Congress, or a USSC’s overturn reverse it - the latter being less likely since a majority of all cases are based upon precedents and any challenge to this in particular would most likely be resolved long before ever reaching a USSC appeals docket.

This ruling has FAR REACHING implications. Read Lincoln’s First Inaugural:

http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres31.html

“I do not forget the position assumed by some that constitutional questions are to be decided by the Supreme Court, nor do I deny that such decisions must be binding in any case upon the parties to a suit as to the object of that suit, while they are also entitled to very high respect and consideration in all parallel cases by all other departments of the Government. And while it is obviously possible that such decision may be erroneous in any given case, still the evil effect following it, being limited to that particular case, with the chance that it may be overruled and never become a precedent for other cases, can better be borne than could the evils of a different practice. At the same time, the candid citizen must confess that if the policy of the Government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court, the instant they are made in ordinary litigation between parties in personal actions the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned their Government into the hands of that eminent tribunal. Nor is there in this view any assault upon the court or the judges. It is a duty from which they may not shrink to decide cases properly brought before them, and it is no fault of theirs if others seek to turn their decisions to political purposes.”


167 posted on 03/18/2008 10:46:43 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Licensing for journalists and newspapers?

Licensing for voting?


169 posted on 03/18/2008 10:46:50 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Domandred

I’m against licensing period, since it is an “infringement” of the right to keep and bear and carry, in and of itself.


170 posted on 03/18/2008 10:47:03 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: BCR #226

It’s the curve balls! Gura slips on the first one then catches his feet and does better in a few minutes.


171 posted on 03/18/2008 10:47:06 AM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: mvpel
Bingo
172 posted on 03/18/2008 10:47:09 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Domandred
Gura should be arguing that licensing a right makes it a privilege.
173 posted on 03/18/2008 10:47:12 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Regarding High Crime

“All the more reasons to allow handguns, so the homeowner can defend themselves.”

Hit it out of the park!


176 posted on 03/18/2008 10:48:37 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Looking at crime stats is Dred Scott reasoning - looking at the presumed outcome of a decision rather than the principle underlying the decision.


177 posted on 03/18/2008 10:48:40 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I don’t believe it. The court is leading Gura’s argument. They are holding him up left and right... pun intended!


178 posted on 03/18/2008 10:48:55 AM PDT by BCR #226 (The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Domandred

Today’s case is about the important constitutional question not the side issues. If the Court holds that the 2A deals with the rights of an individual independent of a militia and in so doing strikes down the DC handgun ban, it’ll be a huge victory.

I’d be OK with being forced to debate age requirements and such at the state legislature level if it meant we got a major constitutional victory.


179 posted on 03/18/2008 10:49:23 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Should speech and religion be licensed?


180 posted on 03/18/2008 10:49:31 AM PDT by jess35
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