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Schwarzenegger denounces 'outrageous' homeschooling ruling
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/7/2008 | Jill Tucker and Bob Egelko

Posted on 03/07/2008 6:36:30 PM PST by GVnana

(03-07) 13:37 PST SACRAMENTO -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger promised today to ensure that parents have the right to homeschool their children, after a state appeals court ruling severely restricted the practice in California.

"Every California child deserves a quality education and parents should have the right to decide what's best for their children," the governor said in a statement. "Parents should not be penalized for acting in the best interests of their children's education. This outrageous ruling must be overturned by the courts and if the courts don't protect parents' rights then, as elected officials, we will."

An estimated 166,000 children are homeschooled across the state.

The ruling by the Second District Court of Appeal in Los Angeles said all children ages 6 to 18 must attend public or private school full-time until graduation from high school or be tutored at home by a credentialed teacher.

The Southern California case stemmed from a child welfare dispute involving the children of Phillip and Mary Long of Lynwood (Los Angeles County). The couple's eight children have been home-schooled by Mary Long, who holds no teaching credential. The children were also enrolled in a private school through an independent study program, which included quarterly home visits. Although the case did not involve the question of the children's truancy, the court decision broadly addressed the legality of homeschooling in California while specifically ruling that the Long family's situation violated state law.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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To: Scotswife
Apparantly getting those credentials must also firm up the fanny!

Finally, a reason to go back to school to get an Ed degree. A friend's been working on me for a few years to become a teacher. I didn't think I could afford the pay cut, but with an extra benefit like that, I might recalculate the budget.

341 posted on 03/09/2008 5:13:27 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: humblegunner
“Homeschooled kids are like unto gods and mine are just regular dogs. . . . Happy now? . . . Some lardass mother with good intentions and a high school . . . diploma can turn her little rats into geniuses at the blink of an eye. . . . Got it. . . . I'll trot my boys outside now and instruct them in ditch digging.

Did you get all that merely by the suggestion that homeschooled children generally score higher on college entrance and other achievement tests?

Nobody was calling public school parents names or using epithets. Parents of homeschool children are anxious tight now to protect their liberty to continue. Many of us around the country believe that this is exactly what God wants us to do. Like the family in the California case, we've already been doing it for many years (26 years in our case). We have three children left at home and are homeschooling them.

We would think that even public school parents would applaud our efforts. And those of us who are property owners are forced to help finance the public schools we don't use.

We are not trying to call public school users ugly names, believe me. We are having to defend ourselves and our “kind” at this point. We are waiting to see how this California court's idiocy might spring up in other states where more of us live.

Regardless, we would be one family who could never submit to such a ruling in our state. We would have to fight or flee. I would certainly send my children out of state for a while. Families like us are working overtime to put together our answers for why we homeschool should be ever be taken in. Stating facts like “Homeschooled children score much higher on average than public school children” are very important to us. They are not meant to denigrate you.

342 posted on 03/09/2008 5:30:21 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Carry_Okie

I believe it’s political insurance. Should the Cal supremes find in favor of gay marriage, he is gonna get blowback from that, and this would provide him some buffer.

Right now his stance in favor of this could well be nothing but lip service, as anything he might do to help home-schoolers (I gotta see this :rolls-eyes:) is down the road a bit, while the court decision is imminent.


343 posted on 03/09/2008 6:19:55 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (We are at war with global warming. We've always been at war with GW. Fascism is our friend. </s>)
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To: nina0113

“but with an extra benefit like that, I might recalculate the budget.”

And what is a firm fanny worth to you?
Can a woman really put a price tag on such a valuable commodity?

Get those credentials ladies!
Then we won’t be called lardass housewives anymore!


344 posted on 03/09/2008 6:36:40 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: GVnana

Just another case of the men in black running the country.


345 posted on 03/09/2008 7:00:43 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: GVnana
For Liberalism to succeede, it relies on the indoctrination of our children and an ignorant population. Home schooling is dangerous to socialism.
346 posted on 03/09/2008 10:23:30 AM PDT by jrunsforoffice
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To: GVnana

The cost to the State of 166,000 additional students might be a factor in the Governator’s statement.


347 posted on 03/09/2008 10:25:30 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: jrunsforoffice
For Liberalism to succeede, it relies on the indoctrination of our children and an ignorant population. Home schooling is dangerous to socialism.

Yep.

348 posted on 03/09/2008 10:27:35 AM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: GVnana
That's an inspiring story of a dedicated mother. It's proof that a parent's love and responsibility are much higher and much more involved than what the state could ever provide to either one trouble child or an entire troubled generation.

Even though Schwarzenegger is super wealthy now, he's self-made literally picking himself up from his own bootstraps. He'd identify with with the mother you've described. I stick with my former comment that he's protecting his own. American public schools didn't make Arnold successful.

349 posted on 03/09/2008 10:47:18 AM PDT by SaltyJoe (Lenin legalized abortion. Afterward, every life was fair game for Death.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; Swordmaker; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
"Parents should not be penalized for acting in the best interests of their children's education. This outrageous ruling must be overturned by the courts and if the courts don't protect parents' rights then, as elected officials, we will."

350 posted on 03/09/2008 10:51:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: wintertime; Mr. Silverback

I recall a story that Will Smith told about his own mom. When he was still a snot nosed teenager, he’d won a big MTV award and was pretty much internationally recognized. He went home (still living with his parents) that night and his mom told him to buy some groceries for dinner. “But mom, I just won the...” was about all he could say before she responded with the hammer, “But but nothing, go get some more groceries if you want to eat this this house.” was her general response.

The state has no authority like a mom does.


351 posted on 03/09/2008 10:53:45 AM PDT by SaltyJoe (Lenin legalized abortion. Afterward, every life was fair game for Death.)
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To: GVnana
The ruling by the Second District Court of Appeal in Los Angeles said all children ages 6 to 18 must attend public or private school full-time until graduation from high school or be tutored at home by a credentialed teacher.

Ah, now I see what this is all about: protecting the teachers' union.

352 posted on 03/09/2008 10:54:13 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: GVnana
I agree. The homeschool parents should stay involved in this, and fight for freedom of education in California; not just you can "homeschool" but you have to call yourself a private school. Now is the time to set it straight and get it right.

Take it to the Supreme Court.

353 posted on 03/09/2008 12:54:13 PM PDT by Constitution1st (Never, never, never quit - Winston Churchill)
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To: GVnana

Good. But the fight is going to be long and hard.


354 posted on 03/09/2008 3:09:06 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
But the fight is going to be long and hard.

I'm afraid you're right. It's appalling what we have allowed bureaucrats and liberals to do to our freedoms.

355 posted on 03/09/2008 4:33:17 PM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: GVnana
Here's a link to a petition by HSLDA (Home School Legal Defense Association) to depublish the ruling, limiting its effect. HSLDA is a top-notch group that we have supported for years; they became aware of the case only after the fact.

HSLDA will be formally petitioning the California Supreme Court to depublish the opinion and "would like to show that many other people, both in California and across the country, care deeply about homeschool freedom in California."

Link: https://www2.hslda.org/Registrations/DepublishingCaliforniaCourtDecision/

356 posted on 03/09/2008 7:10:28 PM PDT by Tirian
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To: Tirian

Thanks. I think the link has already been posted to this thread, but it can’t hurt to do it again!


357 posted on 03/09/2008 7:33:55 PM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: savedbygrace
Homeschooled children score much higher on average than public school children. Challenge that statement and I will locate the data that proves it

If you have that data on hand please ping me? I know its fact but I'd love to pour over the data. Good ammo to have on hand. I've a lot of faith in our young home schooled Americans.
The high schools in Boston are a horrible mess. Just depresses me to no end.

358 posted on 03/09/2008 9:08:14 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: Tirian

BTW this thread now has over 7,250 views.


359 posted on 03/09/2008 10:28:30 PM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: Bobalu
He has the power to pardon in CA.

So he should just do it and nullify the ruling.

No, a pardon would tend to give stature to the ruling, and require the parents to clasp the knees of the State of California in a situation in which it is the State, not they, that is manifestly in the wrong. It's time, instead, to go to war on the Democrat Plantation.

It's time for Der Governator to slam his fist down on the table, hard.......

"Whoaaaa, duuude! Check the knuckle grooves in the tabletop!"

It's an election year, too -- great time to engage conservatives again for a change. "Raw liberals! Come and get 'em!!" --lol.

360 posted on 03/10/2008 3:20:47 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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