Zelda
Posted on 03/07/2008 6:36:30 PM PST by GVnana
(03-07) 13:37 PST SACRAMENTO -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger promised today to ensure that parents have the right to homeschool their children, after a state appeals court ruling severely restricted the practice in California.
"Every California child deserves a quality education and parents should have the right to decide what's best for their children," the governor said in a statement. "Parents should not be penalized for acting in the best interests of their children's education. This outrageous ruling must be overturned by the courts and if the courts don't protect parents' rights then, as elected officials, we will."
An estimated 166,000 children are homeschooled across the state.
The ruling by the Second District Court of Appeal in Los Angeles said all children ages 6 to 18 must attend public or private school full-time until graduation from high school or be tutored at home by a credentialed teacher.
The Southern California case stemmed from a child welfare dispute involving the children of Phillip and Mary Long of Lynwood (Los Angeles County). The couple's eight children have been home-schooled by Mary Long, who holds no teaching credential. The children were also enrolled in a private school through an independent study program, which included quarterly home visits. Although the case did not involve the question of the children's truancy, the court decision broadly addressed the legality of homeschooling in California while specifically ruling that the Long family's situation violated state law.
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I don't want to be mean...but I am sitting here in my $35,000 house and laughing at you. Perhaps I'll go out to my used 2001 truck later and laugh at you again. Ooh, or maybe the '93 Buick!
You really shouldn't make authoritative statements on this subject if you have no idea who and what you're discussing. One of the homeschoolers I know is a CNA, and another CNA has asked my wife to recommend homeschooling groups to her. Also, the only "super-wealthy" homeschooler I'm aware of is Wil Smith. I'm sure there are others, but the point is that mainly those who are wealthy enough to send their kids to a private school that reflects their values do so. Trust me on this, I'm the Cubmaster of the Catholic elementary school's Cub Scout Pack. In fact, I read that Smith keeps his kids home because he couldn't find a private school as advanced as he wanted. He has a tutor who had these kids reading Plato's Republic while they were in short pants.
good teachers are good teachers despite their “credentials”.
The only reason I made it through math during school is because I’m the daughter of an electrical engineer.
I only had 2 competent math teachers prior to my college years.
Thanks dad!
“My direct experience with getting teaching credentials is that it is a costly, time-consuming process that is frustrating beyond belief for someone who is reasonably intelligent.”
my hubby calls it “jumping through hoops”.
What a joke when home school mom's with only high school educations have consistently had their children outscore public educated kids taught by teachers with those credentials you think are so grand!
Hint, home schooled children begin teaching themselves around 12 years of age...just about the time they figure out that they can read the instructions just as well as mom or any teacher out there. Those kids go to college with a much greater self reliance when it comes their studies....one of the main reasons they have begun to be so sought after by those colleges.
I don't think Salty Joe is saying only the super wealthy homeschool their kids.
However, the super wealthy are part of Arnold Schwarzenegger's pals. ( Isn't Will Smith, the actor, homeschooling his son?) Arnold is more likely to pay attention when his pals get punched in the nose by a stupid judge. He will pay attention when he suddenly has fewer education options for his own kids.
I had NO good math teachers in any school I attended.
It was my mom and dad who taught me addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. They used the round cardboard caps that were lids on glass milk bottles.
Later it was my mother and father who taught me fractions, decimals, and percentages.
I taught **myself** the rest though using the textbooks and working the problems on my own. I certainly didn’t learn anything in class. The classes were forever either too slow and mind numbingly boring, or far too advanced for me and therefore also mind numbingly boring. It was a very rare day that the class matched my ability.
“Anyway, her “sisters” were forever interrupting us so we could help them solve math problems they were encountering not in a math class but a class to teach them how to teach math.”
had the same problem with my college roommate.
She had an assignment one day - all she had to do was convert fractions into decimals.
She was already frustrated and near tears before she asked me for help.
I thought it should be no problem - just explain the top number is divisible by the bottom number - right?
She had a mental block - or worse - who knows.
She never did understand it.
She became a teacher.
The the judge should have confined his opinions to the issue of filling out the paperwork properly. Unfortunately, his opinions are directed at homeschooling in a global way.
I read his opinion. Scary! If you ask me!
She became a teacher.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And,,,I am certain that her personal math phobia bleeds over into her professional teaching in class. Poor kids!
“What a joke when home school mom’s with only high school educations have consistently had their children outscore public educated kids taught by teachers with those credentials you think are so grand!”
Don’t forget Lady H!
Those homeschooling moms are also lardasses.
Apparantly getting those credentials must also firm up the fanny!
It wasn’t until 11th grade that I happened upon a good math teacher.
The only problem with her was...she was so intelligent that it was sometimes difficult for her to speak to us on her own level.
But boy...what a nice decent lady!
So - I still needed dad to translate what Mrs. G. was saying to me.
My senior year - calculus, was a teacher right out of college.
He was unusual.
He had scored a perfect score on the math portion of his SAT (unusual for those types to go into education, especially men)
He was the kind of guy who always wanted to teach and loved it. He gave us extra time during his day (his lunch - or after school)
When I took calc in college, all of calc 1 was review for me, and it was 1/2 way through calc 2 that I encountered new material.
Other than those 2, my routine was to take math home to dad and we went over the material together.
hopefully her daily routine does not include math!
I cannot imagine!
That’s funny because the most annoying evening I recall was all these gals asking questions about how to handle fractions. My father told me one of the more frightening aspects of college was encountering the education majors.
My other favorite memory was sitting in an all night library studying but also listening to some kids discuss the final touches on their project for the kiddies the next day (I guess it was Ed practical exercise).
They were going to introduce the kids to the topic of density. They were going to drop an object in oil and then in water and show that since the oil was more dense the object would fall slower than it would in water. They were then going to take the oil and pour it into the water and show that because it was more dense the oil itself would sink in the water.
I let them go on till about 2am and then broke the news to them they were confused as to the fluid properties they were demonstrating and that the kids had inevitably seen coverage of the Valdez disaster (prominent in the news then) and they would probably question why they were discussing oil sinking when clearly it wasn’t on TV.
“My father told me one of the more frightening aspects of college was encountering the education majors.”
I found the journalism majors to be pretty interesting as well.
“I let them go on till about 2am and then broke the news to them they were confused as to the fluid properties they were demonstrating and that the kids had inevitably seen coverage of the Valdez disaster (prominent in the news then) and they would probably question why they were discussing oil sinking when clearly it wasn’t on TV.”
I think most people cannot graduate high school without a course in biology and earth science.
But alot of kids skip chemistry and physics.
I wonder what percentage of elementary ed. majors take college level courses in chem/physics - or even took them in high school?
Hahahahahahahha...hahahaha...HAWHAW hahaha. Hee hee.(Passes hand lightly over face, composing her expression.)
You were saying?
Being a parent isn’t credential enough to decide who educates a child and in what? Well pardon me, Uncle Joe.
Yes. Even with a public school education you figured that out.
You are dismissed, zippy.
And a zippedy doo dah to you.
What credentials were those, specifically? And "mom's" does not need an apostrophe, ducky.
If you read carefully, I have stated that someone should know a subject before teaching it.
Is this concept too deep for you, sunshine?
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