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Canadian Border Incident, Photos Part Of Times Square Investigation
msnbc ^ | 3-6-08

Posted on 03/06/2008 7:47:43 PM PST by rdl6989

NEW YORK - WNBC.com has learned that NYPD and FBI officials are now revisiting an incident that occurred along the Canadian border last month because they are concerned there might be a connection to the Times Square explosion. Four men trying to cross the border tried to flee the checkpoint when Canadian officials tried to question them, investigators said. Two of the men got away, officials said.

The men left behind a backpack with photos of various New York City locations including Times Square, according to sources speaking on condition of anonymity. One of the photos included the military recruitment center, officials said. As a precaution, NYPD outreach officers last month went to various New York City businesses, including the Times Square recruitment center, to investigate if there had been any recent threats. No threat information was known at the time.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: border; canada; nyc; nypd; peaceturds; recruitingstation; recruitmentoffice; recruitmentstation; terrorists; timessquare; wot
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To: james500

“Right now, my money’s on white suburban punk anarchists.”

Very likely true.

But, just as likely is that the supplies ,funding, motivation, and encouragement is coming from terrorists who flee just prior to the planned attack.

Hence, the link between the two stories.


21 posted on 03/06/2008 9:58:07 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Merta; blam

I agree. We know that AQ has been interested for some time in developing white operatives in the west. Had this been a true jihadi, he’d probably have blown himself up at midday on Wall street, taking with him as many infidels as possible.

If the guy is a white guy who had been co-opted by AQ, he’d be way to valuable to risk on a simple pipe bomb planting mission. That’s the guy that AQ instructs to get a job working security at the airport or a construction job where he’s got access to demolition explosives or perhaps even as a volunteer to a United States Presidential candidate.

The target seems wrong to me for ME terrorists. It appears more like someone’s been watching the Berkeley recruiting saga, saw that Berkeley got lots of bad press in the media and decided to show some unsolicited solidarity.


22 posted on 03/06/2008 10:13:07 PM PST by james500
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To: james500

Perhaps as a distraction but you are probably right. Usually any violent, dramatic and evil act always has its own imitators. We have stopped the AQ imitators, but the counter-recruitment efforts are so below the radar that we cannot stop the imitators especially if they are nuisances.

I also agree that AQ loves collateral damage, but the maps, the locations everything makes me think of a terrorist group(like AQ) casing a place to do whatever evil they can think of inside or outside of that area. Now there are also other groups who love that stuff but are very different from AQ(like the Weather Underground who made it a point that they would only use their bombings as political statements and not as murders). What we are basically looking for is a lower-profile insignificant version of Mark David Chapman, who used a tabloid cover to find and kill John Lennon.

I also agree that AQ is smarter than just some guy on a bike breaking a few windows. The volunteer to a Presidential campaign is indeed an interesting suggestion, could there be a lot more with the conversations that the Weather Underground leaders had with Obama than we think? Perhaps that is why Obama seems so new, messianic, and has a checkered past that he isn’t too prone to rhapsodize about.

I am not a conspiracy nut, nor do I think that anything is “going on”. Afterall using that kind of logic, maybe Huma has something up her sleeve.


23 posted on 03/06/2008 10:26:36 PM PST by Merta (They Call Me The Ranting Man)
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To: james500

Yeah, the ‘peace’ people...


24 posted on 03/06/2008 10:27:05 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Oldexpat

FortMcmurray Alberta!...send the squads.

Please


25 posted on 03/07/2008 12:57:44 AM PST by kajingawd (Humans share 50.6% of their DNA with bananas...most my friends are bananas)
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To: Merta; james500

I agree that this is more likely a domestic liberal than an Al Qaeda operative.

However, two things to consider:

1) Even with border control, government stinks at controlling the border.

2) Don’t discount the possibility that this is a VietNam draft dodger coming home for one last “hurrah”.


26 posted on 03/07/2008 2:25:36 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: blam; UCANSEE2

I think it’s white suburban anarchist punks, too; these were probably the guys they caught at the border. I imagine they released the two they grabbed, but the others appear to have scampered off into the woods.

I doubt that they were AQ. If AQ has gotten so weak all it can do now is throw a cherry bomb at a recruiting station, I’d say we’ve won! But unfortunately, I don’t think that’s the case.

BTW, wasn’t Canada giving “sanctuary” to a couple of American soldiers who had gone AWOL? I think the incident happened a couple of years ago. But in any case, Canada is high on the list of places for US military-haters to hang out.


27 posted on 03/07/2008 2:37:28 AM PST by livius
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To: james500
The article is a bit vague on which side of the border the four were.

Canadian officials question people trying to get in to Canada.

28 posted on 03/07/2008 4:22:31 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: blam

Maybe because the article says “anarchist-types.”.

;-)


29 posted on 03/07/2008 4:24:45 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: rdl6989; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...

30 posted on 03/07/2008 4:30:12 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: james500

They must have been trying to enter Canada. I have never known a “checkpoint”, manned by Canada customs, to exist when one is leaving Canada for the US.


31 posted on 03/07/2008 4:35:19 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: james500

Given that they were stopped by Canadian border guards, they were probably on the US side trying to enter Canada.


32 posted on 03/07/2008 4:59:58 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: livius
wasn’t Canada giving “sanctuary” to a couple of American soldiers who had gone AWOL?

Nope, their deportation is working its way through the courts but they've lost every hearing.

33 posted on 03/07/2008 5:06:11 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Oldexpat

Stop selling us oil, gas and electricity?


34 posted on 03/07/2008 6:03:00 AM PST by Dr. Luv (The cranky oncologist)
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To: Dr. Luv
Perhaps also stop the very close exchange of intelligence information between CSIS and the CIA and the RCMP and the FBI.

Maybe pull Canadian troops out of Kandahar and present the US with the need to find another battle group on short notice to replace the Canadian one. Good luck on getting NAYO to kick in troops to that hot theatre,

Note that the Canada bashers did not seem to recognize in this article the fact that the US only knows about these people because of the close co-operation between the two countries' enforcement and intel agencies.

Yet The suggested response by at least one Freeper on this thread is to reward this co-operation by bombing Canada.

35 posted on 03/07/2008 7:08:26 AM PST by Clive
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To: Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...
More Canada bashing.
36 posted on 03/07/2008 7:10:56 AM PST by Clive
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To: Squawk 8888

That’s good to know!


37 posted on 03/07/2008 7:46:11 AM PST by livius
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To: livius
At least one deserter, faced with determined opposition by the Crown to his claim for "refugee status", has given up and gone back to the US to take his lumps from the military justice system.

Not only was he losing at the tribunal level and on appeal but he saw that no US deserter was getting any sympathy from the Crown or any of the tribunals and courts involved.

38 posted on 03/07/2008 7:58:42 AM PST by Clive
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To: UCANSEE2

My guess the day after was

90% Leftwing anti-war types
9% Islamic terrorists
1% someone trying to keep the terror issue in the forefront

now it’s 51% category A and 49% category B


39 posted on 03/07/2008 8:01:14 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Oldexpat
If there are know terrorist cells in Canada..and they won’t take care of them..maybe we should send a Predator or the Seals to take them out. What is Canada going to do?

Welcome it! At least I would. By all means, I would LOVE this to happen.

40 posted on 03/07/2008 8:51:40 AM PST by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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