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"Cage fighting" slugs its way on to prime-time TV
Reuters ^ | 2/29/08 | Steve Gorman

Posted on 02/29/2008 8:45:39 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks

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To: Womp Rat
When UFC bought Pride Fighting Championships last year they pretty much became a monopoly. This is a good thing and may cause UFC to become more reasonably priced. I've never paid the big bucks for the PPV, so I'm several months behind watching it on Spike TV or Vs. channels.

Did you know it almost was an Olympic sport in 2004?

I thought this was an interesting study Johns Hopkins did. "The overall injury rate [excluding injury to the brain] in MMA competitions is now similar to other combat sports [involving striking], including boxing. Knockout rates are lower in MMA competitions than in boxing. This suggests a reduced risk of TBI in MMA competitions when compared to other events involving striking."

How bout that? It's safer than boxing!

41 posted on 02/29/2008 11:06:04 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Who would you rather appoint lifetime judges, Barack Hussein Obama or McQueeg?©®™)
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To: Damocles
A mix of boxing, wrestling, and jujitsu are mandatory now.

That's what makes it such a pure sport and should be in the Olympics.

Oh, and it is so much less violent than boxing in my opinion.

It's no longer an opinion. See the Johns Hopkins study I just linked.

42 posted on 02/29/2008 11:09:19 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Who would you rather appoint lifetime judges, Barack Hussein Obama or McQueeg?©®™)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Knockout rates are lower in MMA competitions than in boxing

Unlike in boxing, fighters most often quit in MMA, as is one of the methods of winning a fight. How often does a boxer just up and quit in the middle of a fight. Other than Roberto Duran, I am hard pressed to name another figher who has done it. Though it has to happen from time to time, but it is exceptionally rare.

43 posted on 02/29/2008 11:13:32 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Phantom Lord
fighters most often quit in MMA,

I haven't seen every MMA fight there is but I've seen quite a few. Not once have I ever seen a fighter quit unless you are talking about submissions. Submissions are part of the sport and prevents injury. I'd hardly call that quitting.

44 posted on 02/29/2008 11:21:05 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Who would you rather appoint lifetime judges, Barack Hussein Obama or McQueeg?©®™)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Yes, he certainly does. I saw his last match, in which he disposed of his opponent in less than thirty seconds. I want him as my bodyguard./Just Asking - seoul62..........


45 posted on 02/29/2008 11:24:26 AM PST by seoul62
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To: PurpleMan

It’s not the appropriateness in society, it’s the appropriateness in a sports bar.

Here’s the basic problem with boycotting sports bars because of MMA: unless there’s a special event on all sports bars will have at least one TV tuned to ESPN, ESPN shows MMA, subsequently all sports bars will periodically show MMA. So you might as well boycott them all.


46 posted on 02/29/2008 11:25:09 AM PST by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Yes, part of the sport. And yes, quiting. Sumission, quiting, giving up, all the same.


47 posted on 02/29/2008 11:25:59 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: discostu

And if enough people do and tell the management that they are it might make a difference.


48 posted on 02/29/2008 11:30:40 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: PurpleMan

To convince sports bars not to tune in ESPN?! Yeah right.


49 posted on 02/29/2008 11:32:23 AM PST by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: Phantom Lord
Not hardly. That’s like saying a boxer quits when he gets TKO’d. If he continued he would be injured. Same thing here. Now you are parsing words.
50 posted on 02/29/2008 11:33:42 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Who would you rather appoint lifetime judges, Barack Hussein Obama or McQueeg?©®™)
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To: seoul62

When was that?


51 posted on 02/29/2008 11:34:39 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Who would you rather appoint lifetime judges, Barack Hussein Obama or McQueeg?©®™)
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To: discostu

No to convince them not to tune into that. A big difference.


52 posted on 02/29/2008 11:36:03 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I would say submission is not quiting is parsing words. And rules of boxing dictate the TKO, and it is not in effect in all fights.


53 posted on 02/29/2008 11:39:19 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

A couple of weeks ago - I believe it was on showtime or usa channel./Just Asking - seoul62........


54 posted on 02/29/2008 11:39:39 AM PST by seoul62
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To: PurpleMan
You have yet to explain how you concluded that sports bars are an inappropriate setting to view MMA.

What would be the appropriate settings?

55 posted on 02/29/2008 11:40:14 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: PurpleMan

No actually there’s no difference. Sports bars tune into the sports networks, outside of special events they don’t actually pay attention to what’s on the network, they’re busy serving drinks and food and making money. They flip to ESPN when they open, unless a customer requests a channel change (usually because what they want to see is on a TV they can’t conveniently see from their seat) it’ll stay on ESPN until close. Whether ESPN is showing Sports Center, of the NBA, or NCAA, or one of their “original entertainment” things, or mixed martial arts, the bar is tuned into ESPN. They were tuned to ESPN before that program started, they’ll be tuned to it after. So yes you need to convince them to not tune to ESPN.


56 posted on 02/29/2008 11:40:57 AM PST by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: Phantom Lord

Enjoy the blood-lust in the privacy of your home?


57 posted on 02/29/2008 11:43:12 AM PST by PurpleMan
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To: Clint N. Suhks

They had a big wrestler dude fight in the last UFC, he almost knocked the guy out, but got put into submission, it just took a second of not paying attention to where he put his feet with the other guy on the ground.


58 posted on 02/29/2008 11:50:08 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Phantom Lord
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. In boxing the purpose of a TKO is to prevent injury. In MMA when a ref sees a fighter no longer can defend himself he calls the fight. Because a ref cannot tell when a fighter is about to be injured in a submission hold the fighter himself must tell the ref.

Quite often in choke holds the fighter passes out before he can tap out and the ref has to stop the fight. Others tap when they realize they will lose consciousness. Same thing, which one is quitting?

59 posted on 02/29/2008 11:54:03 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Who would you rather appoint lifetime judges, Barack Hussein Obama or McQueeg?©®™)
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To: Phantom Lord
Plenty have taken a dive, tanked a match, because they were told to.

Fixed fights and dancing boxers are responsible for the decline of boxing.

60 posted on 02/29/2008 11:59:44 AM PST by razorback-bert (Eco-wackos make love by candlelight, it is the only light they have.)
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