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The Clinton-Obama Debate: Turn Out The Lights/The Party's Over
Red State ^ | Feb. 27, 2008 | by Pejman Yousefzadeh

Posted on 02/27/2008 6:19:43 AM PST by jdm

I only caught some of the debate, but it was a disaster for Hillary Clinton. She skipped over questions that discomforted her--and boy, were there a lot of them. She was tedious, exhibiting an instinct for the capillaries that had to have had her supporters cringing in agony. Was it really worth it to whine about how she got the first question and then bring up the Saturday Night Live about the media showing favoritism towards Obama? To be sure, the skit was right and Hillary Clinton had reason to complain, but if she didn't actually believe that she would come out of that exchange looking badly, she has learned nothing whatsoever from her time on the campaign trail.

Equally horrible was the comment about how she just doesn't have time to release her taxes, or that Barack Obama was not sufficiently anti-anti-Semitic when he said that he "denounced" Louis Farrakhan as opposed to "rejecting" Farrakhan. Really, the whole thing was pathetic beyond measure. I know that it is common practice to believe that Hillary Clinton is The Smartest Woman In The World, or something along those lines. But her side of the debate looked clumsy, amateurish and dumb beyond measure.

Meanwhile, Obama was cool, confident, comfortable in his own skin and looked like a winner. I take no joy in writing that because I would much rather have John McCain face Hillary Clinton in the general election; it would be a far easier campaign for McCain to win, after all. But despite my earlier confidence that somehow, someway, Hillary Clinton would find a way to pull through, it is obvious that it's just not going to happen. One way or the other, Barack Obama will be the Democratic nominee.

And Republicans will be in for an epic battle. Don't believe me? Then read this. No, Barack Obama is not Ronald Reagan. But he stands to profit from being underestimated by his foes just as Reagan did. Perhaps someone would want to see to it that such a luxury is denied Obama.

Assuming that Republicans want to win, of course.


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KEYWORDS: clinton; obama
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1 posted on 02/27/2008 6:19:49 AM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

Unless Hillary cheats, Obama will be the dem nominee. He will then mop the floor with old, sick, hateful, back-stabbing John McCain. Time for conservatives to start planning their strategy for 2012. It’s over for 2008.

If McCain wins, conservatives will have to go hide in a cave somewhere - THAT’S how much he hates us.


2 posted on 02/27/2008 6:23:28 AM PST by alicewonders (The Republican Party - gettin' stupider and stupider.)
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To: jdm

Texas was supposed to be her “firewall”. Instead it will be her bonfire................


3 posted on 02/27/2008 6:27:18 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: alicewonders
He will then mop the floor with old, sick, hateful, back-stabbing John McCain.

I don't think so..........

4 posted on 02/27/2008 6:28:08 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: alicewonders

I think the strategy for conservatives should be to concentrate on the congressional elections hoping to limit the damage there and then work hard in 2010 to regain the House and or the Senate because I think the electorate will be pretty sick and tired of Dem policies by then.


5 posted on 02/27/2008 6:28:40 AM PST by saganite (Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space)
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To: jdm
I know that it is common practice to believe that Hillary Clinton is The Smartest Woman In The World, or something along those lines.
I don't know who originally came up with that but it's a load of 'carp'. Our 6 y.o. Granddaughter is smarter than she is.
6 posted on 02/27/2008 6:29:55 AM PST by Condor51 (Vote for McInsane or Death by Ugga-Bugga? Decisions, decisions, decisions.)
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To: saganite

I completely agree.


7 posted on 02/27/2008 6:30:04 AM PST by alicewonders (The Republican Party - gettin' stupider and stupider.)
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To: saganite

No cleavage and she didn’t cry.


8 posted on 02/27/2008 6:30:11 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: jdm
I am predicting that the Hillary campaign will try one last dramatic bombshell or gimmick to try to pull this thing out. Potentials:

* Crying again (proven formula) * Fainting somewhere in Ohio (poor Hillary - this grueling campaign has taken such a toll on her) * Mega-smear of Obama (Clinton political machine will try to make something stick) * Somehow convincing (bribing) Edwards or Gore to endorse her.

9 posted on 02/27/2008 6:30:27 AM PST by Doctor Freeze
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At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if Hillary would run as McCain’s VP. That’s how crazy this whole election is.

Worst. Election. Ever.


10 posted on 02/27/2008 6:32:05 AM PST by alicewonders (The Republican Party - gettin' stupider and stupider.)
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To: Red Badger
Texas was supposed to be her “firewall”. Instead it will be her bonfire funeral pyre................

There, fixed it..

11 posted on 02/27/2008 6:32:26 AM PST by Wil H
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To: jdm

I don’t understand about her whining about getting the first question. I didn’t watch it, what did she say?


12 posted on 02/27/2008 6:33:09 AM PST by Southerngl
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To: alicewonders

I don’t see how they CAN’T try to cheat.

They won’t put party above their own power, unless threatened by a more powerful entity/machine.

I hope they cheat. I hope they’re successful in cheating.


13 posted on 02/27/2008 6:33:13 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: alicewonders

Worst. Election. Ever.

bump


14 posted on 02/27/2008 6:33:46 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Wil H

I didn’t want to go there..............


15 posted on 02/27/2008 6:33:54 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: jdm

When asked about Hillary not releasing IRS records, Paul Begala then asked, “Has John McCain released his medical records?” Look for this to be a big issue in the general.


16 posted on 02/27/2008 6:36:28 AM PST by Hattie
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To: jdm

Clinton made a big mistake.

The first topic was health care. Instead of answering the questions, Clinton tried to argue with the questioner (Russert). Bad move. A candidate should never argue with the questioner in a debate. That may work on Meet The Press, but it makes the candidate appear combative and defensive. Big mistake.

From that point on, Clinton couldn’t seem to get back to ‘level’.

Obama even trounced her by calling her on her word game parsing she tried to play about his denounciation of Nation of Islam support.


17 posted on 02/27/2008 6:36:57 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: jdm
Tim Russert went into this debate with an agenda to attack Hillary from the opening bell, and that he did. She was on the defensive for most of the night, defending comments she made, defending contradictions, defending actions by campaign workers, and to Obama, it was allot of “How do you respond to that?” type of questions.

I kept thinking, She was afraid to go on FOX because she thought they were bias and unfair? Good grief, FOX would of been allot more fair and balanced that MSNBC and CNN to these candidates.

18 posted on 02/27/2008 6:37:56 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: jdm
I know that it is common practice to believe that Hillary Clinton is The Smartest Woman In The World

She has proved in her 20 debates and various campaign speeches that she isn't.
19 posted on 02/27/2008 6:38:28 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: alicewonders
Unless Hillary cheats, Obama will be the dem nominee,

Never bet against the Clintons.

20 posted on 02/27/2008 6:38:45 AM PST by McGruff (Good thing Huckabee has those super delegates to count on.)
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