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Blogger Commits Suicide as Protest Against Democrats and Left
Cleavland Plain Dealer Death Notices, The Freedom Fighter Blog ^ | 2/19/2008 | C.P.D. editors, Ronald Barbour

Posted on 02/24/2008 3:09:45 AM PST by Jack Black

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To: Jack Black

Some one wrote this in his comments in the proceeding article when he was quiting blogging. This person offered him help or at least to talk with him if he needed to do so. The commenter seemed to understand what he was going through well enough to see the possibility of where he was headed:

“I want you to know if you are in a serious depression, I am here for you if you need to talk. My husband has struggled with depression all of his life. There is nothing to be ashamed of. If you are feeling so desperately low that you may be considering suicide please talk to me.”——Anonymous


21 posted on 02/24/2008 4:00:48 AM PST by WildcatClan (Real Marxism you can believe in. Yes, we can. Si, se puedo.)
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To: umgud
I imagine you LIFE is more important to others too, than your death would be.

He had a family, I'm sure they miss him.

22 posted on 02/24/2008 4:01:06 AM PST by Jack Black
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Thanks for everyone who has helped research this. It’s an odd little story. The Clinton connection, the double blogs. FR research is great.


23 posted on 02/24/2008 4:06:50 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

Well..this Winston Smith claims he is 23. It is all a bit odd, but I guess mental illness always seems ‘odd’. Very sad..no matter what the real truth.


24 posted on 02/24/2008 4:10:25 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Jack Black

The guy just proved his detractors correct when he did something stupid like this.

“Edited audiotape”. Sheesh....


25 posted on 02/24/2008 4:11:29 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Jack Black
Sadly, the Left by way of MSM is ignoring this. It surely does not fit THEIR message. Perhaps, more can be done to get this story out; if it is true and it certainly appears to be.

Need Hannity on this one or Rush. . .

Whatever his depression; he was lucid.

26 posted on 02/24/2008 4:16:37 AM PST by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Jack Black

Obviously troubled; but troubled by what is right. . and is not. Perhaps he wanted to see the narcissist Clinton; the traitor Clinton; the pervert Clinton; up close.


27 posted on 02/24/2008 4:18:56 AM PST by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: fweingart

While I pray daily for those who have committed suicide there is a part of me that agrees with your statement.


28 posted on 02/24/2008 4:19:13 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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To: Jack Black
I imagine you LIFE is more important to others too, than your death would be.

Perhaps had he jumped off the CNN building in Atlanta. . .

Not so, really when an altruism calls your name. In this case, seems a depression called; but he felt it a necessary altrusitic act. And for him; it was.

29 posted on 02/24/2008 4:23:43 AM PST by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: Jack Black

I noticed on the sidebar at The Freedom Fighter blog a link to Free Republic. Wonder if he was a member here too?


30 posted on 02/24/2008 4:27:43 AM PST by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: Jack Black

Pretty strange. From the article posted at About.com(by him) about his arrest it states this:

“Maybe it started with his Cold War under cover intelligence duties in Berlin. Maybe it started with the untimely death of his beloved wife and parents due to cancer in a two-year period, and the debilitating depression that followed.”

Yet from the death notice posted earlier, his mother is still alive. ???


31 posted on 02/24/2008 4:28:00 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Bostton1

That second link shows Ronald Barbour to be 52 at the time in 2000, but the obit above shows him as 47.


32 posted on 02/24/2008 4:32:40 AM PST by Southerngl
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To: Southerngl

http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=Ronald%20Barbour&state=OH&ref=&se=&doby=&city=&name_style=1


33 posted on 02/24/2008 4:45:30 AM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jack Black
if I recall from my physics classes in college at 100 feet a falling object reaches a speed of about 100 MPH

It's actually about 55 mi/h on paper but less due to air resistance.

34 posted on 02/24/2008 4:49:40 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Jack Black
I do this in memory of the several hundred victims on 9/11 who jumped off the World Trade Center as a means of avoiding burning to death, and the over 3,000 American soldiers killed fighting Islamofascism in Iraq and Afghanistan. A parallel reason is a protest against the American Left and the Democrat Party who have stabbed the Armed Forces in the back in the early stages of what is shaping up to be The Third World War.

I can imagine the host of reasons, 'Media' will find here; not to cover this man's last wish. But in truth; it deserves to be covered; certainly for better reasons than we hear the sorriest of tales, every day from Greta VanSusteran; Fox News, et al. . .

35 posted on 02/24/2008 4:51:16 AM PST by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: umgud
I tend to believe that my life is more important to me than my death would be to others.

He forgot one of Patton's dicta. "No one ever won a war by dying for his country. Don't you die for your country. Make the other poor bastard die for his country. Shoot him in the belly."

36 posted on 02/24/2008 5:08:20 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: umgud
"Call me a coward, but I tend to believe that my life is more important to me than my death would be to others." Bingo. Additionally, you can make no change while you are dead. You cannot convert liberals when you are dead. It's impossible to share your views when you are dead.

Most importantly, suicide is a direct path in the opposite direction of God, and a completely selfish act. This may sound harsh in speaking about someone who has obvious disconnect or mental issues, but the facts are right there. Like it or not, as individuals, life does not revolve around us, it revolves around the collective love created by family and friends, and those are the people left to pay for the heavy debt of a suicide. I find it completely thoughtless of someone who commits suicide.In the case of this guy it's an even more outrageous example due to the fact that he was obviously still capable of rational thought and he did it anyway.

It's pretty disappointing if this is all true (frankly, I'm too lazy right now to start searching). The fellow seemed to be rather intelligent and for the most part, had his head on straight from a political position. Regardless of his past, may God see his way to have mercy.

37 posted on 02/24/2008 5:33:16 AM PST by FunkyZero
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To: metesky

It may be the revolutionary’s duty to live to fight another day, but as Major General Hancock said before Gettysburg, “There are times when a corps commander’s life does not count.”


38 posted on 02/24/2008 5:35:19 AM PST by flowerplough ( Obama smokes!)
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To: umgud
I think General Patton said it best:

"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."

Sometimes I've thought that things were so bad, personally, nationally and globally, that it would be a welcome relief to just go out with an opus. But I've decided it is far better to stick around and see if there isn't something I can do when the time comes to help that other poor dumb bastard realize his ambitions.

39 posted on 02/24/2008 6:04:06 AM PST by Sender (Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon.)
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To: Sender

Or, as another great military leader said when asked if he could forgive terrorists; “My job isn’t forgive, but to send them to someone who can.” (paraphrasing)


40 posted on 02/24/2008 6:18:15 AM PST by umgud
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