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Limbaugh and Hannity can no longer be trusted.
ChristianPatriot.com ^ | Feb 13, 08 | Rev Bob Celeste

Posted on 02/14/2008 4:44:19 AM PST by SLB

John 15:18-25 Wednesday, February 13th, in the year of our Lord 2008 First let me say that I am not happy that I have been put in a position where I have to interrupt the series on the Gospel of John. But, what Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and other talking head pundits have done this year is not only beneath contempt and disgust but requires a Scriptural response as well. They have, in my humble opinion, proven who it is that they serve, and it is not the God of truth, but the father of all liars.

There was a time when one could turn the dial to Rush Limbaugh and/or Sean Hannity and expect to hear the truth. There was a time when listening to either got you an honest evaluation of individuals and especially candidates. That has changed, as both have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that they can and will lie to prevent a true servant of Christ from occupying the oval office.

While I am disappointed in both of these legends in their own minds, I am especially upset at and disappointed in Rush Limbaugh. I would not have believed that he would sink to the level of vicious lies coming out of his mouth, making Romney (one of the most liberal governors in the history of the most liberal state of Massachusetts) a conservative, while at the same time doing everything in his power to paint Conservative Christian Pastor Mike Huckabee as a liberal. From Sean Hannity and others, I am disappointed, but not all that surprised. But in Rush, it goes past just disappointment. It goes to having to re-evaluate my thinking about his honesty over the years. With Rush it is more than simple disappointment, it borders on disgust. I always expected more of him, and I have been proven, by him, to be wrong in my high estimation of him and his honesty.

If I were talking to Pastor Mike Huckabee this morning, I would remind him of what Jesus warned us about in John 15:

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you.

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, ‘The servant is not greater than his Lord.’ Since they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they had kept My saying, they would keep yours also.

But all these things will they do unto you for My name's sake, because they know not Him that sent Me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no covering for their sin. He that hates Me hates My Father also.

If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both Me and My Father. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE. (John 15:18-25 ACP/KJV)

Those who serve satan hate Pastor Huckabee because they hate Christ. Had they never read or even claimed to read the word of God, they would be blameless, but since they claim to be pro-life Christian conservatives who have read the word of God, their sin lies at their door and within their hearts.

But, I would continue and remind Pastor Huckabee of this passage as well:

And He (God) said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son.

And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him. Now Abraham (age 99) and Sarah (age 89) were old and well stricken in age; and it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women. Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, “After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?”

And the LORD said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, ‘Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?’

Is any thing too hard for the LORD?

At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son! (Genesis 18:10-14 ACP/KJV)

Then I would ask Pastor Mike; “Reverend Mike, which do you think it would be harder for God to do, make you President or cause an 89 year old woman to not only give birth to a perfectly happy, healthy baby boy, but breast feed him and cause her to live till he was 37 years old?”

To all of you who are getting a bit disappointed and down at the mouth, let me remind you of how God likes to fight political wars.

Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod: so that the host of the Midianites were on the north side of them, by the hill of Moreh, in the valley. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people that are with thee are too many for Me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against Me, saying, “Mine own hand hath saved me.” Now therefore go to, proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, “Whosoever is fearful and afraid, let him return and depart early from mount Gilead.”

And there returned of the people twenty and two thousand; and there remained ten thousand. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down unto the water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say unto thee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I say unto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go.

So he(Gideon) brought down the people unto the water: and the LORD said unto Gideon, Every one that lappeth of the water with his tongue, as a dog lappeth, him shalt thou set by himself; likewise every one that boweth down upon his knees to drink. And the number of them that lapped, putting their hand to their mouth, were three hundred men: but all the rest of the people bowed down upon their knees to drink water. And the LORD said unto Gideon, By the three hundred men that lapped will I save you, and deliver the Midianites into thine hand: and let all the other people go every man unto his place.

And he(Gideon) divided the three hundred men into three companies, and he put a trumpet in every man's hand, with pitchers, and lamps within the pitchers. And he said unto them, “Look on me, and do likewise: and, behold, when I come to the outside of the camp, it shall be that, as I do, so shall ye do. When I blow with a trumpet, I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and say, The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”

So Gideon, and the hundred men that were with him, came unto the outside of the camp in the beginning of the middle watch; and they had but newly set the watch: and they blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers that were in their hands. And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, “The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”

And they stood every man in his place round about the camp: and all the host ran, and cried, and fled. And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the LORD set every man's sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath. (Judges 7:1-7 and 16-22 ACP/KJV)

Mike, If I’m right, you still have too many working for you and not enough against you for God to deliver the presidency into your hands. You still have to many Bob Celestes and not enough Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys. For I do still believe that God is going to cause this election in November to be between you, a servant of the most High God and whichever of the two servants of satan that the democrats choose to run against you. I believe that this fight between you and McCain is nothing more than a warm up for the big fight of good against pure evil in November.

The Lord be with you my brother and may He give courage and strength to the men around you, let they, you, and I obey the command of the Lord in Job 40:7a. “Gird up thy loins now like a man”

And now, God willing I can get back to the Gospel of John.

And Lord, please let it be with those who attack our brother Mike as they try to make it be to our brother Mike. In the name of the Lord Christ Jesus I pray. Amen.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2008; apostasy; dominionism; election; hannity; huckabee; rush; socialgospel; talkradio
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To: wideawake
I agree with you. The appellation Baptist Minister before or after your name does not a saint make. Huckabee's actions and words make him a bad bet for president.

vaudine

161 posted on 02/14/2008 6:05:43 AM PST by vaudine (RO)
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To: SLB

A very effective anti-Huckabee screed.


162 posted on 02/14/2008 6:05:46 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Broker

You do NOT understand... FAIRNESS Doctrine even in a state of sleep would require RUSH to give equal time, McCain and his cohorts in Congress would have demanded passage post haste. What is so difficult to understand about limited government, law and order, and individual responsibility?

I have listened off and on for years to RUSH, and never was he my leader.


163 posted on 02/14/2008 6:06:24 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: SLB
I'll bet this guy has John 3:16 written in duct tape on the rear window of his pickup truck.

Of course Sean and Rush are displeasing him, because they aren't fawning all over the huckster, and the evangelicals are think that huck's qualifications are somehow Presidential.

And of course they are concerned about ratings - just like a Pastor is concerned about how much hit the offering plate on Sunday morning. If people didn't like him (i.e. his "ratings" were low) they wouldn't attend his church.

The article is not about Rush or Sean being bad, it's about sour grapes because his huckster is coming in 2nd.

Regardless of how this race is turning out, there are still plenty of us conservatives around, and show's like Rush and Sean are where we go to hear like minds and sensible arguments of the people - a lot like Free Republic.

Does Pastor Bob expect us to now tune to Al Franken?

And finally, what is a Pastor in the pulpit, if not just a "talking head"? Maybe he's upset because we'd rather listen to talk radio than listen to Pastor Bob read out-of-context Bible passages to us.

The mood American is in right now, a "pastor" is never going to be elected President...just look at the crap Bush has taken for just praying once in a while.
164 posted on 02/14/2008 6:06:32 AM PST by FrankR (Election 2008: is land really that cheap in Costa Rica?)
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To: SLB

Sadly, but truly, it is more often the case that pastors cannot be trusted.


165 posted on 02/14/2008 6:07:05 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: olezip

Savage has some quirky religious views. And has positively rejected the Gospel on the air.


166 posted on 02/14/2008 6:07:49 AM PST by DManA
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To: humblegunner

You know, God can’t help but hear “crappy” AM radio. In fact, He knows what everyone will say before they say it, maybe He doesn’t listen after all.


167 posted on 02/14/2008 6:09:23 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: SLB
doing everything in his power to paint Conservative Christian Pastor Mike Huckabee as a liberal.

Lots of scripture, but little refutation of the accusation that Huckabee is a Christian liberal. I'm guessing Rush and Hannity didn't need much paint.

168 posted on 02/14/2008 6:11:18 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: rintense

“And any man that would use his Christian faith for political expediency is not to be trusted either.”
AMEN! Another thing, as a beloved friend said recently, “I like that Huckabee has the Holy Spirit and that would be good as a president but then I think, well, I have the Holy Spirit, maybe I should run for President”.


169 posted on 02/14/2008 6:12:39 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: spectre

The Huckster attacked Mormons? I didn’t know that.


170 posted on 02/14/2008 6:12:45 AM PST by WildcatClan (The epitome of irony is that few entities exist, less common, than common-sense.)
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To: SLB

I think?/ it might just be their voting records and, public statement’s they made during their tenure of office that has turned Rush, and Hannity against Romney, Huckabee ?


171 posted on 02/14/2008 6:13:17 AM PST by buck61
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To: ToastedHead

Your sentiments reflect those of many. The choices are nothing to get conservatives excited.


172 posted on 02/14/2008 6:13:21 AM PST by OriginalIntent (Undo the ACLU revision of the Constitution. If you agree with the ACLU revisions, you are a liberal)
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To: SLB
Pastor Bob says it all....
has Pastor Bob, joined Westboro Baptist Church (KS) or something?....Church of the Outrageously Ignorance Stupidity...or does he just want some Media Attention
173 posted on 02/14/2008 6:15:51 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: samtheman

Exactly.

Every time I see a Catholic priest/church offer sanctuary to criminal illegal aliens, I’m reminded of that church’s present course and future aspirations.

Enough of this.


174 posted on 02/14/2008 6:16:07 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SLB

Why is “Pastor Bob” shilling for an out-and-out liar like Huckabee, who has been caught red-handed in a number of very basic untruths this election cycle?

Does Pastor Bob not know that one of the things the LORD hates is lying lips?


175 posted on 02/14/2008 6:16:10 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Not gonna vote for Ritalin John McCain)
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To: WildcatClan
The Huckster attacked Mormons? I didn’t know that.

I don't know, but apparently these days simply saying, "Mormonism is a false religion" is considered a "bigoted" attack.

176 posted on 02/14/2008 6:16:31 AM PST by incindiary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVodI85NLMQ)
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To: SLB

If Bob Celeste is part of a 501c3, he might ought to keep looking over his shoulder for the IRS. I just got a message today about a pastor friend who is now in the IRS sightes for saying something publicly in defense of Mike Huckabee. He wasn’t campaigning, nor did he say anything about voting for anybody. But now he’s being called in.


177 posted on 02/14/2008 6:16:58 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: Crawdad
BTW, What’s with Limbaugh giving free on-air advertising time to the hot water, meat, and mattress guys? It happens at the same time every day.

Hint: it's not free.
178 posted on 02/14/2008 6:16:58 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: Laserman
This is total crap. The reverend should stick to religion and not politics!

The man lives in the middle of no where "34 Duck Pond Rd Harrison, ME 04040", and people are taking him serious, any fool can get a computer and set up a web site!

179 posted on 02/14/2008 6:17:33 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: samtheman
Socialism in the name of Christianity, is still socialism...YUP. 8/
180 posted on 02/14/2008 6:17:40 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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