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Our best move at this point seems to be working for a conservative congress to keep mckennedy's feet to the fire.
1 posted on 02/08/2008 5:01:37 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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To that I say I will work hard and vote for Conservative congressmen...AND Ive been taking notes.
I saw Vito-Staten Island- standing proudly behind Mcshame before Romney “suspended”. I wont forget that Vito!!
Long live Stevens, Souter and Ginsberg.


106 posted on 02/08/2008 7:59:05 AM PST by cusp
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I agree with the article. I’ve weighed all the options and I agree that even as bad as McCain is, he is far better than Clinton and especially Obama. But I am going to predict that most Republicans won’t vote or throw away their vote to make a point and we are going to wind up with Obama. I am very afraid.


115 posted on 02/08/2008 9:09:42 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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McCain might be worse.


116 posted on 02/08/2008 9:10:47 AM PST by apocalypto
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ANCHOR: For a detailed analysis of what is happening tonight ... we go to Tim Russert. ... Tim ...

RUSSERT: The shear enthusiasm for the Democrat candidate tonight is seen in both the exit polling and in the live vote count. NBC is projecting Hillary Clinton will be the POTUS before the polls close on the west coast this evening. The Republican candidate, John McCain, has both failed to win a single state, nor has his support broken the 30% level in any state so far. Bob, if this isn't a mandate for Hillary Clinton I don;t know what is ...

A year and a month later ...

RUSSERT: OK, President Clinton is about to give her historic State of the Union address.

CLINTON: Good evening, I stand here before you tonight to proclaim the state of the union is strong. Thanks to a filibuster-proof congress, we passed the most sweeping health care reform in the history of this country. [she raises a small card] I hold in my hand my personal Universal Care Card that I will use when I visit the doctor. Within 90 days every person living in the US will be issued one of these cards. Should you require medical services from your doctor without a card you will be promptly entered into the Universal Care database and a card will be issued for you on the spot. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle]

Thanks to a filibuster-proof congress, we repealed the tax policies of the previous administration and have enacted the Income Tax Fairness Act; which has resored fiscal responsibility to the financial policies of this government. To ensure we will never go back to the failed policies of giving tax breaks to the rich, I call on congress to implement my recently proposed Financial Accountabilty Act. With this sweeping legislation it is mandatory that any proposed decrease in federal revenue receive a 4/5-ths majority vote to enact. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle] No longer will the committments of the US government be obligations on the backs of the middle class. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle]

I stand before you tonight with Sg. Major Joe Jones [she points to the balcony at a young man sitting next to former President Bill Clinton] who officially is the last US serviceman to come home from Iraq. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle] Its a fine testiment to what a committed American people can do in just one short year. Though the political and economic situation in Iraq remains challenging, we look forward to working with Prime Minister Muqtada El Sadr to restore political and economic prosperity to all Iraqis.[thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle]

To ensure America is never again placed in a position whereby a President forces an illegal war on our great country, I call on Congress to pass the Congressional War Budget Reform Bill. This historic legislation will make it impossible to release the funds to fight any war for any reason unless the troops have the proper equipment and training BEFORE we commit them to battle. This will ensure that Congress has the shared responsibility of declaring that our country must sacrifice our brave young soldiers on the battlefield. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle]

With restored fiscal accountability complete, we must now ensure the devisive politics of the past remain in the past. To achieve this end, I am proposing the Responsible Voice Act, which will guarantee that our citizens are not exposed to hate speech from groups who would seek to undermine our government, who instigate economic and political instability, who encourage the denigration of members of our population who have different views of religion, sexual orientation, and gender issues. No longer will our citizens fear being oppressed by hate speech in any media format. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle]

You know ... education is so very important to the future success of our children; and to ensure our children can achieve the American dream I am proposing the Every Child Moves Ahead program. We will no longer allow our public education system to be systematically undermined by private institutions who reject the common values of our great nation. We will rid our country of all public and private institutions and individual programs whose chief end is to poison our childrens minds with ideas that are not comensurate with our nations shared values. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle]

The state of our economy is strong this evening. With the passage of the Morgage Reform Bill, millions of Americans who were held hostage by the big banks have been allowed to remain in their homes. I call on congress to inject another 200 billion into the American Housing Protection Fund. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle]

You know, when my husband put 1 million more police officers on the streets of the US, people mocked him as a dreamer. Well I call on congress to release the funds to place another million police officers on our streets ... to keep our kids safe and oversee an orderly society based on our shared common interests. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle]

As many of you know, my administration has demonstrated a willingness to allow those countries that have joined the common family of nations to share in our common committment to provide security to the world stage. With the United Nations Security fund reaching historic levels, I have received a communique from Aleha Mohammad El Takriti that the US can safely reduce our military personnel by 60% in the next 2 years. I propose we commit to achieving an 80% reduction in the next 18 months. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle] In this day and age of shared responsibility with the world community, I think America should lead the way to achieving a peaceful co-existance with those countries who have struggled to join the family of nations. No longer should our military encite violent reaction from countries that are embattled in an economic struggle for freedom. We should work more closely with them on a diplomatic solution to their economic disparity.

Finally, my fellow Americans, we must strive to end the silly debate about whether mankind is responsible for the changing climate of our planet. With the publication of the definitive work on Global Climate Change by Ambassador Gore and Secretary Moore, there is no longer a debate about the causes of global climate change. Given the alarming and eye-opening projections from their scientific results ... WE MUST ACT NOW or forever condemn this planet to catastrophic events of Koranic proportions. Now that every home in this country has been purged of energy inefficient lighting, we must now move on to more important measures. With the price of oil approaching $200 this week, it is more imperitive than ever that we fund research into alternative energy sources. To assist in this important activity, I am proposing the Help Find The Alternative fund. This special investment in alternative fuel sources will be funded with a small surcharge on profits from Microsoft-Exxon and from a one-time subsequent tax on individual investors who possess shares of Microsoft-Exxon in their 401K plans. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle]

Finally tonight, I want to thank those of my collegues who have played such an important role in restoring our countries shared values. First, Speaker Pelosi and Senate majority leader Reid, without whom we could not have passed any of this sweeping legislation of the past 12 months. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle] Chief Justice Ted Kennedy who was so gracious to step in on short notice when Justice Ginsberg was taken too ill to serve. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle] To the Secretary of Homeland Security Madelene Albright who has done such a great job ensuring our citizens are protected from unfair monitoring of their private lives. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle] To the Secretary of Defense General Wesley Clark. Secretary Clark was solely responsible for the smooth transition of our troops from the battlefield of Iraq to a more humanitarian role of ambassadors of peace in troubled southeast Arizona. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle] And finally, to my darling husband ... President Bill Clinton, whose love and devotion all these years has inspired me to make this historic journey with you ... the American people. Good night ... and god bless our great country. [thunderous applause from the Dem side of the isle]

117 posted on 02/08/2008 9:12:39 AM PST by dartuser ("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
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We must work to elect real conservatives down the ticket. Staying home is not the answer!!

McCain will be far better for the military, and we have a better chance of getting conservative judges with him—we have ZERO chance of getting them with Hilbama.

God help me, I’ll support McCain if he is indeed our nominee! GG


120 posted on 02/08/2008 9:30:14 AM PST by GatorGirl (Election 2008--It's all about the judges!!)
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what matters is the long run the long run the long run.

Nobody disagrees McCain would be better for conservatives tomorrow.

What we do disagree with is whether he’d be better for conservatives the day after tomorrow.

As usual the media and the rhino’s aren’t going to figure that out.


124 posted on 02/08/2008 9:57:38 AM PST by bingsha10
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After more than 120 replies, the writers point seems to perfectly established. People calling themselves conservatives are will to totally forget the war on terror because they hate McCain. These conservatives are the kind of people who want to quit and go home when down 5 runs in the 6th inning. They are willing to play make believe with our security and say “Oh anybody would keep us safe. Barack and Hillary are great American before they are Democrats!”
Yeah right. I’m voting for McCain because I understand that the threat is real and the choices are ZERO. Neither a woman nor a Barack Husein Obama will keep us safer than McCain will. Keep all your sophistry and “I’m so conservative I’d rather let our guard down than vote for McCain.” McCain will keep us safe NO DEMOCRAT WILL.
130 posted on 02/08/2008 11:38:47 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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Alternate scenario:

McCain is going left on Inauguration Day anyway, and in doing it he’ll be hailed as a bipartisan. The policies, of course, will fail and suddenly all that back slapping will cease around the 2010 election cycle.

This is when MDS will set in (McCain Derangement Syndrome) and they will pillory him as a scourge. He’ll be blamed for everything that’s wrong with the country, while everything that’s right will be a result of random events.

Why NOT let a liberal take the WH, wreck the country, and get the blame for it? At least it will be clear who was responsible, if not in 2012, certainly in 2016.

Republicanism is an empty brand, and it stands for nothing, and it should be used exclusive of the term ‘Conservative’. Both Republicans and Democrats are coalition parties now - collections of interest groups generally at opposing agendas with one another but unified in a marriage of expedience.

Conservatism means everything it did in 1980. Republicanism is whatever McCain and his coalition defines it to be, until such time as they are out of power.

I’ll vote Thompson and let the chips fall where they may.


131 posted on 02/08/2008 11:49:39 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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re: McKennedy.

That’s exactly what I’m afraid of.

Kennedy will be “advising” McCain on his judicial picks.


132 posted on 02/08/2008 11:51:01 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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They have unfairly called Mormonism a cult and now all of us will suffer the consequences

This guy is wrong on this point. Yes, Mormonism IS a cult but that IS NOT the reason why Evangelicals did not vote for him.

A lot of people think that Evangelicals are so narrow-minded that a person's religion IS THE ONLY factor in electing a president. OF COURSE NOT.

It's the MEDIA that keeps harping about this alleged problem and then blaming it on Evangelicals.
136 posted on 02/09/2008 10:21:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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hold nose, vote.


139 posted on 02/09/2008 10:25:17 AM PST by television is just wrong
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Our best move is to say no to John McCain, up until the convention, and extract some promises of concessions on issues that are important to conservatives. Right now, McCain thinks that he has us over a barrel. Maybe he does, but not without some room to maneuver.

McCain, needs us more than we need him. The first concession should come from the heads of the GOP, that the primary system will be reorganized so that this never happens again.


140 posted on 02/09/2008 10:26:47 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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You could not possibly be more wrong. There is no real difference between McCain, Obama, and Hillary. They are all creatures of the state, near full time career elected or civil servants. None of them like the Constitution. None of them like tax cuts. Not one of them could run a business. John McCain wants to bow down to the environmental lobby and show everyone how perfectly he can suck up to bad science on the global warming front. None of them really know how to fight a war against Muslims. If you want to start a war against Muslims, everyone should pick up the bible, put on the uniform and declare the homestead act in the Middle East. ANYTHING short of that will be the terminally sophomoric police action we know fail time after time. John McCain has an F- (AN F- !!) from Gun Owners of America. He has been called mentally unstable by his fellow colleagues. He voted for Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

If you want to have a good fantasy, start dreaming about Scarlet Johansen or Penelope Cruz, but don't indulge this idiotic notion that McCain represents a choice for honorable Americans. He's a beltway traitor, just like the other two.
142 posted on 02/09/2008 10:37:57 AM PST by farmer18th
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If Mit gives his delegates to Huckabee then that will make it a real race.


145 posted on 02/10/2008 9:01:14 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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