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McCain or Bust...Conservatives, will you vote?

Posted on 02/07/2008 12:06:38 PM PST by WiseGuyF686

No articles on here, I apologize. I just wanted to bring a little bit of opinionated discussion in at this point, now that we stand on the brink of setting American back 4-8 years...

The conservative candidates are out of race, and it looks like it's McCain or bust. How many of you will close your eyes and vote for McCrazy over Obama or Hillary, in order to do minimal damage to America over the next preidential term...and how many of you will sit home and watch the sky fall?

Personally, I'll do just about anything to keep the Clintons at bay, including vote for John McCain.


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KEYWORDS: mccain; mcmexico; yayanothervanity
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To: Bull Market
We have a better chance at keeping Hillary in the center.

That is absurd. Hillary will have a Dem House and Senate. She will have carte blanche to do whatever she wants and the more left the better. McCain will need our support again in 2012 so he has to at least pay lip service to our positions during his first 4 years.

The Clintons must not be allowed to win. Period.

341 posted on 02/07/2008 1:48:37 PM PST by lawdave
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I think I’ll write in Kim Jong Ill. After all, if any of the current losers get the office, the end result will be the same.


342 posted on 02/07/2008 1:48:44 PM PST by retr0 (He who argues with a fool is an even greater fool.)
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To: tennteacher

Time heals (almost) all wounds. I’ve had to discipline myself not to say I’ll stay home or write in a candidate. If Romney could put aside his ambition for the good of the country, why can’t others?

Next week, however, I will vote for Hillary in the VA open primary! Talk about holding your nose. I don’t think there’s a Republican or conservative, dead or alive, who could beat Obama at this point.


343 posted on 02/07/2008 1:49:21 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: WiseGuyF686

This question should be directed at liberals. McCain’s no conservative (unless you are trying to redefine conservatism).


344 posted on 02/07/2008 1:49:28 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: RinaseaofDs
I won’t vote for John McCain, even if Jesus were his running mate.

Would Alfonso, Felipe or Carlos change your mind?

345 posted on 02/07/2008 1:50:04 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: WiseGuyF686

I have to weigh the evidence.
It comes down to who would do more damage. McCain with a democratic congress or Osama with a democratic congress.

I think I will wait until the very last moment to make the decision as to voting for the Democratic candidate, or not voting at all - or voting for McCain. I don’t see much difference to the Nation if I do any of the above.

I will NOT give one red cent to the Republican party and I will spend my time backing and working for conservative candidates. If we had a majority of conservatives in Congress and the Senate, I wouldn’t feel as bad for McCain getting into office.

He brags about working with Democrats. He better start promising to stand up to them.


346 posted on 02/07/2008 1:50:14 PM PST by ODDITHER
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To: WiseGuyF686
I will never vote for a Socialist be they in the GOP or Socialist Democrat party. I will vote for a conservative. That obviously eliminates the both the GOP and RATs
347 posted on 02/07/2008 1:50:48 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: WiseGuyF686

I have to weigh the evidence.
It comes down to who would do more damage. McCain with a democratic congress or Osama with a democratic congress.

I think I will wait until the very last moment to make the decision as to voting for the Democratic candidate, or not voting at all - or voting for McCain. I don’t see much difference to the Nation if I do any of the above.

I will NOT give one red cent to the Republican party and I will spend my time backing and working for conservative candidates. If we had a majority of conservatives in Congress and the Senate, I wouldn’t feel as bad for McCain getting into office.

He brags about working with Democrats. He better start promising to stand up to them.


348 posted on 02/07/2008 1:51:08 PM PST by ODDITHER
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To: Imperial Warrior
I'll bet these guys are tickled pink that Johnnie's made it this far.


349 posted on 02/07/2008 1:54:22 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: WiseGuyF686

My big issues with McCain, other than the fact he is a back-stabber who has called me a bigot and a racist, are that he’s bought into the “global warming” anti-capitalist scheme and he favors amnesty for illegal aliens.

I will not trust him until he questions the validity of man-made climate change and admits he was be wrong.

Until he says he will build the fence and secure our borders, without question, I will not trust him.

After that...I still won’t trust him. My back hurts.


350 posted on 02/07/2008 1:55:11 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: ChocChipCookie
Sums up the GOP candidates in this election cycle.
351 posted on 02/07/2008 1:55:45 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: WiseGuyF686
Sir and all conservatives out there,

Almost eight years ago I swore to everyone that GHB would be the conservative's answer to the Big-Government Dems out there, and for the past eight years I have eaten those words everyday since.

The so-called "Big Tent" for the GOP has been so expanded that the RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) have picked up the stakes and moved the whole thing past anything even approaching conservative ideas. I didn't move; the Tent left me. And I will not now be lied to again, to just hold my nose, shut up, and go along for another train ride to Amnesty for illegals, Big-Government and Liberal destruction of the First Amendment, campaign finance reform, destruction of this nation's economy with the global-warming hoax, and be lied to again by my former Party.

We are told that to not support McCain is treason to conservative ideas and that the "Enemy of my enemy is my friend." Well, McCain has never been my friend since the Keating Five Scandal which resulted in the Savings and Loan fiasco back in the late 1980s. He dissed this party ever since he lost against GWB, and almost left the party twice. It is too bad for us now that he did not. Well guess what? He has as much stole the Party as much as his old buddy Keating did back then as far as I am concerned.

I am told that to not vote for McCain is a suicide vote. I am reminded of the movie 300, where the Spartan King Leonidas is pressured by the ruling classes to not fight against the all powerful Persian King Xerzes. Against overwhelming odds, but with unwavering dedication to their priciples, the Spartans fought the Persian army until they were betrayed by Ephialtes, a hump-backed former Spartan who wants to redeem his father's name.

The principle of having perfect children in Sparta was for the protection of ALL Spartan's in battle, not against having deformed children. All male children in Sparta had to fight in battle.

In Ephialtes' anger at rejection by Leonides, he betrays the very name that he vows to redeem. Ever since McCain was rejected in his last presidential race, he has shown his deformed and withered personality towards the GOP by doing everything he can to derail the conservatives within the GOP specifically, and the Party in general, till he can now remake the Party in his own image. Such a Party is not a Tent that I am now comfortable to live under.

I do not need to hold my nose again and have it shoved in to the latest dung pile to know that it stinks to high heaven. McCain can take his twisted version of conservatism back to the rock he lives under. I will vote my conscience and my ideas.

I will either write in Fred Thompson's or General H. Norman Schwarzkopf. If I have to die with my vote, then at least I know that I voted for my principles.

Old Patriot

352 posted on 02/07/2008 1:57:24 PM PST by old patriot ((Lived too long.))
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To: WiseGuyF686

I will not vote for McCain, not even against Hillary.

Whoever wins will enact horrible, horrible policies. But if a Democratic president is pushing them, there is at least a small chance that conservatives in the Senate can fillibuster.

The 2008 election is lost, no matter who wins. When we are preparing to “clean up the mess” as one poster put it, we’ll be much more likely to win 2012 or 2016 if we can point to the Democrats and say “See, that’s what happens when Liberals are in the white house”.

And you can’t convince me that a Gang of 14 member is going to appoint strict constitutionalist judges either.


353 posted on 02/07/2008 1:57:24 PM PST by TennesseeProfessor
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To: WiseGuyF686

I started voting R in ‘76 because I couldn’t hold my nose tightly enoufg to vote D. Now, I’ll have to hold my nose to vote for the R.


354 posted on 02/07/2008 1:57:31 PM PST by ol' hoghead (He is not here; for he is risen.)
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To: pj_627

Woudn’t it be great if all the Huckabee, Romney, Thompson and Hunter voters could get together and vote for....oh, let’s say Fred...in the other primaries?

Make the point loud and clear.


355 posted on 02/07/2008 1:57:36 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: Designer
McCain can't win.

No, Hillary can't win. If she does that will be the end of this once great nation.
356 posted on 02/07/2008 1:58:11 PM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: WiseGuyF686

Only for Obama. He won’t harm the Country or Conservatism nearly as much as McCain or Clinton.

Obama would be ineffective: My favorite kind.


357 posted on 02/07/2008 1:58:28 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Amnesty! Taxes! Censorship! Jihadi Rights! Gay Marriage! NY Times Endorsed! McCain!)
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To: WiseGuyF686
The next President will be either McCain r Hillary or Obama. I despise McCain because of the amnesty thing. I have nothing else really against him. I decided I would vote for him because he as the only Republican who could win. So super Tuesday came and I decided I would not vote. Romney and Huck could not win so I was not going to vote for them but for someone who wants to bring n 60,000,000 illegals and turn them into registered Dem’s all I could come up with was “screw you.” I still hope McClain wins but since I live in Georgia I will not have to vote for him so I won’t. I would vote for him if I lived in a swing state and I hope you freepers who do live in swing states, do vote for him. For the rest of us we need to show up anyway to make sure we don't lose down the ticket races even if we don’t vote for the top. At his age and health there is an exceedingly good chance that he will not make it through the next four years. If he goes back to giving the country away I sincerely hope he does not make it.
358 posted on 02/07/2008 1:59:51 PM PST by bilhosty (JINDAL IN '12)
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To: WiseGuyF686
The next President will be either McCain r Hillary or Obama. I despise McCain because of the amnesty thing. I have nothing else really against him. I decided I would vote for him because he as the only Republican who could win. So super Tuesday came and I decided I would not vote. Romney and Huck could not win so I was not going to vote for them but for someone who wants to bring n 60,000,000 illegals and turn them into registered Dem’s all I could come up with was “screw you.” I still hope McClain wins but since I live in Georgia I will not have to vote for him so I won’t. I would vote for him if I lived in a swing state and I hope you freepers who do live in swing states, do vote for him. For the rest of us we need to show up anyway to make sure we don't lose down the ticket races even if we don’t vote for the top. At his age and health there is an exceedingly good chance that he will not make it through the next four years. If he goes back to giving the country away I sincerely hope he does not make it.
359 posted on 02/07/2008 2:00:04 PM PST by bilhosty (JINDAL IN '12)
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To: Republic of Texas

You are absolutly right, I’m afraid of the Wild Card, RP, we can almost count on his throwing his hat in when the Pubs say goodbye to him, then we all lose, period. Hellery or Osama will be in, I’m afraid my Sony will meet with my Ruger if I have to watch either of them two more than once, let alone for 4 years. We have a choice, I never have said I like or want McCain, for whatever reason the party has made the decision for us, we’re just a little less screwed if we put our own in. After listening to McCain’s talk to CPAC and after listening to Romney’s bowing out I’m gonna vote for JM. I sent money to Thompson and would again. The thing that is really clear is all of us on the right do not march in lock step and have definate opinions of our own, we have the capability to think for ourselves. I have a guy I know that is laughing like heck right now about McCain, I don’t think it’s funny, it’s not my choice. But we all have to make choices. I don’t want to look at another Clinton or good talker for four years. My Sony TV agrees, maybe I should put my old Toshiba in the living room just in case. :)


360 posted on 02/07/2008 2:00:34 PM PST by MSRiverdog (The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist!)
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