Posted on 02/07/2008 12:06:38 PM PST by WiseGuyF686
No articles on here, I apologize. I just wanted to bring a little bit of opinionated discussion in at this point, now that we stand on the brink of setting American back 4-8 years...
The conservative candidates are out of race, and it looks like it's McCain or bust. How many of you will close your eyes and vote for McCrazy over Obama or Hillary, in order to do minimal damage to America over the next preidential term...and how many of you will sit home and watch the sky fall?
Personally, I'll do just about anything to keep the Clintons at bay, including vote for John McCain.
I’ll vote for the Republican nominee. I’m no fan of McCain but I will not be part of making HillBama the President. Never.
Specifically:
a.) I want to keep my guns.
b.) Our troops have accomplished too much to flush them now. They deserve victory.
Everything else is peripheral. Keep in mind, too... that the people are learning to flex power in ways that never happened before, and Presidents have to listen. Think of how internet-fueled outrage has already affected things like the prior amnesty bill. We stopped it.
I think this new cyber-connected grass roots will go a long ways to help control the possible missteps that somebody like McCain might make. And... he’d be the better Commander in Chief, and that’s what matters most to me.
Here’s my quandry. McCain, Clinton, Obama are all shades of the same agenda. Amnesty, open borders, national health care, raise taxes, socialists all. McCain has better verbiage on the WOT at times. But, pretty much any of the three will massively screw the country over.
So...do I vote for McCain, let him do his thing to ruin the country, and in 2012, let the dems and media tell the country “this is what a republican president did for you, we can do better”
OR, do I write in a candidate, let either the hill-and-bill show or O’Bambi win and do pretty much the same thing to the country McCain will, then in 2012, republicans can say “this is what a dem president did for you, we can do better.”
At this point, I don’t know which I will choose. I will be watching the next 9 months. Talk is cheap. If McCain truly wants to reach out to the conservative base, he needs to quit talking about how conservative he is and start advancing conservative legislation in congress. And yes, I know that’s not fool-proof, but it’s a start.
All sounds good in theory, but there are many parts of the country where the only kind of Republican that can get elected is a RINO. So many here simply aren’t getting the message of this primary is that we are a minority and couldn’t elect anyone by ourselves.
ah i see so there was a smoky backroom where all the RNC bigwigs got together and chose McCain? last i checked it was the primaries and caucases that chose him. heck most of the party bigwigs are annoyed by McCain. you want to get mad at someone get mad at the primary voters that got him in there. i voted for Fred (worthless i know but i tried) and he did not make it. I dont like McCain but will vote for him over the Dems. He gets an ACU rating of 82 for lifetime and 65 for 2006. Not great but better than Hill’s 9 and 12 or Bamas 8 and 8. you want to sit home, cry and blame “the man” that is your decision.
Oh you mean you were not allowed to vote?! That's terrible /s
Bottom line fact is that if conservatives had the numbers, "their candidate" would have gotten the nomination. We don't have those numbers. Why is this hard to understand?
I might not if it weren’t for Hitlery.
As of now, if Hitlery is the candidate, then McCain is my man (YIKES; sorry to say that).
If Obama is, maybe I’ll just sit it out. I know he can be dangerous, but like McCain, I just despise Klintoons and absolutely, really dislike and distrust them.
I won’t vote this time. The American people deserve to be slapped around and get a wake-up call and Marxism will do that. But the majority won’t really realize it, I’m afraid.
I won’t vote for McCain.
Well, if that dope Ralph Nader can run as an independent.
Start his campaign now, why can’t a true conservative start.
Problem is there don’t seem too many true conservatives out there.
All politicians seem more interested in kissing up to the Dems.
Obviously you’re one of the ignorant people who, as someone talked about earlier, favor running around with ‘we’re doomed signs’. It makes sense, if you can’t understand the point of my post.
It’s an opinion generating topic. I’m interested to see who’s going to vote and who’s going to walk.
If you’re that afraid of a discussion you shouldn’t be on a forum.
I’m writing in Tancredo’s name.
No way will I vote for the Marxist/liberal named McCain who has tried to destroy the Republican party and America by working for over a decade to give Amnesty to 30 million illegals and their families back in the 3rd world. McCain wants all these illegals to be in the U.S. so he can increase the number of democrat voters and voters for socialism so he can destroy the GOP and make us all poor. That is his plan . That’s what he wants Amnesty and poverty of all except the elite at the top of the government.He’s a Marxist. look at his record. This is just one example.
Then look at McCain-FeinGold which took away our freedom of speech. They can Use McCain-FeinGold even to shut down FreeRepublic and conservative blogs. Bush hasn’t done it but McCain or Hillary will use this unconstitutional law to crack down on blogging and talk radio, PROOF:
http://www.news.com/The-coming-crackdown-on-blogging/2008-1028_3-5597079.html
Bradley Smith says that the freewheeling days of political blogging and online punditry are over.
In just a few months, he warns, bloggers and news organizations could risk the wrath of the federal government if they improperly link to a campaign’s Web site. Even forwarding a political candidate’s press release to a mailing list, depending on the details, could be punished by fines.
Smith should know. He’s one of the six commissioners at the Federal Election Commission, which is beginning the perilous process of extending a controversial 2002 campaign finance law to the Internet.
In 2002, the FEC exempted the Internet by a 4-2 vote, but U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly last fall overturned that decision. “The commission’s exclusion of Internet communications from the coordinated communications regulation severely undermines” the campaign finance law’s purposes, Kollar-Kotelly wrote.
Smith and the other two Republican commissioners wanted to appeal the Internet-related sections. But because they couldn’t get the three Democrats to go along with them, what Smith describes as a “bizarre” regulatory process now is under way.
CNET News.com spoke with Smith about the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, better known as the McCain-Feingold law, and its forthcoming extrusion onto the Internet.
Gee, fellas, I'm not sure how to break this to you...
McCain can't win.
So how did you fix your RINO problem in Arizona? I’m honestly curious.
Def, you've won a angry hoard of yellow dog Republicans who are socially liberal, but fiscally conservative or conservative on national defense.
Even though you are preserving a place at the table for strait conservatism, You will be hounded for the next four years with a deafening whine that "Hillary/Obama is all your fault and only your fault." If confronted with your belief that this is preferable to sacrificing true conservative ideals members of this hoard may snivel "you've kept your boot on the neck of this party for too long!" and opus out.
Will you bury your guns... or just turn them in like you're told?
Nope!!
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