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LIVE THREAD- CPAC 2008 on CSPAN
CSPAN ^ | 7 February 2008

Posted on 02/07/2008 6:25:21 AM PST by SE Mom

Ideas & Agenda for the GOP Party Today

All four remaining GOP presidential candidates attend the 2008 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC). Sen. John McCain (AZ), Rep. Ron Paul (TX), and Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (MA) address and seek conservative support at nation's largest annual gathering. Fmr. Gov. Mike Huckabee (AR) speaks at CPAC on Saturday


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: bush; cheney; conservatism; cpac; election2008; mccain; mcshamnesty; romney; ronpaul
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To: GOPyouth
Coburn saying McCain has always supported Alito, and that McCain never supported Amnesty.. LMFAO!!! This guy is a F’in LIAR!

A short while ago I thought we had 5 US Senators who were fit to live because they were the ones (with our backing) who staved off AMNESTY and preserved the sovereignty of our country: DeMint, Sessions, Inhofe, Vitter and Coburn.

Right now I'm wondering what the Amnesty Forces have on Coburn. It must be something absolutely disgusting and hideous to make him make a turn like that. I guess we have four US Senators who are fit to live, not five.

921 posted on 02/07/2008 2:02:33 PM PST by Sal (We the people ARE the Government; you are not. We elected you to represent us; not to replace us!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Interesting. Thanks. Open primaries do fit McCain’s style of getting independents and democrats to vote for him in the primaries. However, I don’t think that will translate to the same votes in the general. Maybe being the nominee is enough for him.


922 posted on 02/07/2008 2:05:18 PM PST by Girlene
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To: AliVeritas

yes


923 posted on 02/07/2008 2:08:52 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: txflake; La Enchiladita; seekthetruth; flaglady47
Someone on Mitt's staff did say he's in it to the end, i.e., the convention.

Now that I've heard everything worth hearing today, here's my neutral take......

Mitt cancelled all his campaign appearances the other day. That's why his spokeman said his boss was in it through the convention. I believe the die was already cast and the "off" time was spent in deep conference between Mitt and McCain and their respective staff members. Everything went so smoothly today, with George Allen there, with Mitt's announcement, etc. that the program had to be created beforehand.

I will not be surprised to see Romney as McCain's running mate. That may have been part of today's pre-planned menu, although it was unspoken.

This ticket would help reassure conservatives, not all conservative, but a lot. It would also be a geographical bonanza, Arizona and so many Northeastern electoral vote-rich states. Remember, Mitt snatched Massachusetts right from under the nose of the Teddy Kennedy clan.

Romney's healthy and vigorous looks and bearing would bring a goodly amount of verve and zip into the team to counterbalance McCain's.....well, whatever, fill in the blank.

So, my prediction is that it'll be a McCain/Romney ticket, and Huckleberry will be shut out.....and will drop out very soon now. He's broke and he's not going to get any more funds of any size no matter how he tries to pass the collection plate.

Fascinating stuff tinged with a lot of relief, bitterness, resignation, alienation, you name it. But I was an elected person for twenty years.....and the politicians of both parties are doing what they've always done and always will do, rally 'round their own political parties....and they do it because that's their profession.....and it's just what they do.

Leni

924 posted on 02/07/2008 2:09:21 PM PST by MinuteGal (Mitt and Fred are Still My Guys!)
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To: Sal

It could be that the leaders are trying to unite the GOP early so that we will be a force and get behind McCain to beat Hillary or Obama in Nov

Divide we certainly fall... united we have a chance..


925 posted on 02/07/2008 2:09:33 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: MinuteGal

That’s too bad. Even with Romney as his VP, I still cant do it. I would have pulled the lever with Romney in charge, just can’t with mclame.

If we need to lose the WH till 2012, so be it. That will give us enough time to clean some house. I am completely disgusted with this man and his contempt towards us. NO ONE who has that much contepmt towards a group can change that fact.


926 posted on 02/07/2008 2:15:28 PM PST by NoGrayZone (I believe we are witnessing the birth of the new Conservative Party....Grab a cigar!)
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To: MinuteGal

That’s too bad. Even with Romney as his VP, I still cant do it. I would have pulled the lever with Romney in charge, just can’t with mclame.

If we need to lose the WH till 2012, so be it. That will give us enough time to clean some house. I am completely disgusted with this man and his contempt towards us. NO ONE who has that much contepmt towards a group can change that.


927 posted on 02/07/2008 2:15:49 PM PST by NoGrayZone (I believe we are witnessing the birth of the new Conservative Party....Grab a cigar!)
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Oops, sorry about the double!!!


928 posted on 02/07/2008 2:16:28 PM PST by NoGrayZone (I believe we are witnessing the birth of the new Conservative Party....Grab a cigar!)
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To: SE Mom

I saw he did send a letter to the Federalist Society today though that was pretty strong, almost a promise regarding constitutionalist judges, so maybe he would be okay with that.

But, I am so sick of being soutered all the time I don’t want another Bush 1 in terms of judges.


929 posted on 02/07/2008 2:17:09 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Sal
Right now I'm wondering what the Amnesty Forces have on Coburn.

I too am shocked at Coburn. Who knows where the truth lies. If amnesty in any form is pushed through it is truly the end of our Republic. These sellouts apparently don't care about our sovereignty. I guess they feel safe behind their gated communities. We will decay into a third world, while the elites smile and laugh at us.

930 posted on 02/07/2008 2:18:29 PM PST by sand88
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To: La Enchiladita

Correction: One officer killed, one critically wounded in L.A.


931 posted on 02/07/2008 2:18:41 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Ruh Roh.... Mitt-Mobile is stalled...developing...)
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To: STARWISE
And, if it's Obama as our next president, which is very possible: just imagine him as CIC in the War on Terror.

He'd be just as wussy as Prez. Palmer (Wayne, not David) on 24.

932 posted on 02/07/2008 2:19:57 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: rwfromkansas

I would like Fred to sit down and have a man to man chat. I think Fred might be more persuasive than some of the rest of us...

my anger towards McCain rose with Mcain-Feingold -reached fever pitch during the Gang of 14- CIR sent me over the top and I’m still there...

I don’t trust him to LEAD. I trust him to act like a wheeler-dealer senator.


933 posted on 02/07/2008 2:24:42 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Tennessee Nana
It could be that the leaders are trying to unite the GOP early so that we will be a force and get behind McCain to beat Hillary or Obama in Nov

Divide we certainly fall... united we have a chance..

Let me give you a piece of advice - you can preach unity all you want but your childish, angry, bitter, intellectually-bankrupt attacks on Romney mostly (and others) do not afford you some role of peacemaker. You, like McCain, can't have it both ways. Respect is a two-way street and you have got a long way to go before I will respect anything you say. Ditto for McCain.

934 posted on 02/07/2008 2:32:37 PM PST by torchthemummy (There Will Be No McCain Nomination Without Huckabee Running Interference)
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To: SE Mom
IIRC, Pamela Geller (Awesome, Hot Babe Alert!) of Atlas Shruggs will be introducing Mark Steyn.

Mark

935 posted on 02/07/2008 2:34:53 PM PST by MarkL
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To: MinuteGal

I was thinking the same thing as I left to pick up my daughter.

McCain/Romney.

They had to see how Mitt would do on his own first.

Course, more than a few freepers will aneurize over this.


936 posted on 02/07/2008 2:36:17 PM PST by txhurl (Don't sausage me, bro!)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Cinnamon...

How long has he been in Arizona and Congress? He’s on the friggin’ border. Do you remember Prop. 200? Do you remember the Arizona polls of legal immigrants then?

You know what he said about Alito before... then after.
Ginsburg (after that testimoney btw), he voted for (Souter as well). Do me a favor, go read the transcript of Ginsburg’s hearing (the questions she did answer), then come back and tell me how he voted for her.

How many conservative judges dropped out and were left out in the cold re: Gang of 14 (go back and look at the timing as well).

When have you ever heard him say tax cuts permanent before he started thinking about running?

McCain was one of two Republican senators to vote against a $1.35 trillion tax cut that Bush proposed in 2001. McCain also voted against similar plans in 2003, as well as a proposed repeal of the federal estate tax. McCain said they disproportionately benefited the wealthy.

Let’s cut the crap... folks know Al Q will attack again and want him there, what else can they do. Many are forced to vote for him whether they want to or not.

As I said from the start, this is a CFR election/global.

http://unitedconservatives.blogspot.com/2008/01/who-funds-mccain-soros-you-say.html

(Tides Foundation, Kerry/Theraaaazah)

OT:
BTW, to kick off the closing of Gitmo on Mc’s first day... and bringing them here to Leavenworth; Britain is sending over Abu Hamza, thought you’d like to know that. Wait till you hear his itineraries.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/191130.php

I’m telling you something I know, this immigration bill (which he will push), gives 24 hr z visas (for life btw), not just to Mexicans and other overstays, illegals... but to terrorists. If no one can see that (including our present CIC), there’s a huge problem. Right now our law enforcement, prisons, etc. are strained running after our next door neighbors and releasing them... instead of concentrating on those from terrorist countries overstaying.

P.S.


937 posted on 02/07/2008 2:39:18 PM PST by AliVeritas (The Christian satan warned you about.)
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To: NoGrayZone
I understand how you feel. If Barry Goldwater was reincarnated and was on McCain's ticket, there are those who still wouldn't vote for the team. I was nauseous when McCain made his speech and tried to keep a mental note of how many times he lied and/or spun.

In my previous post I was soley addressing those who wonder why some of their conservative heros were on the stage today, and what slimey deals were made, etc. etc.

My point was that professional politicians, including those in the Democrat party, will rally 'round the nominee of their party, although inwardly they may feel as we do. Why?

Because as Rush said today, it's what they do. They cannot quit their party because it's their profession to be a member and upholder of their party. What else can they do?

Rush made the analogy of executives at a large corporation who are unhappy with the CEO's decisions, manners and morals but who do not quit the company. They stay on to try to improve things, and of course, the company itself is their living and even their satisfaction in life.

This is not the perfect analogy, but Rush was trying to point out the inner workings of major league politics with all its realities to his listeners.

Burying political differences with inter-party rivals was thus in Lincoln's time, Hoover's time, LBJ's time, Reagan's time, and remains the same today.....as politicians of either party join together in efforts to present a united front to the enemy.....and to beat the living daylights out of them.

The professional politicians, in the end, and when there's no alternative, will dance with the political party that brung them to the party in the first place (partially quoting Da Mare, Richard Daley, the Elder, of Chicago, who was dumb like a fox when it came to politics).

Leni

938 posted on 02/07/2008 2:45:00 PM PST by MinuteGal (Mitt and Fred are Still My Guys!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Yep, people have to read it very closely.

Practical Solutions to Congressional Dysfunction
http://www.reforminstitute.org/DetailPublications.aspx?pid=60&cid=2

Feel free to click the immigration tab as well.


939 posted on 02/07/2008 2:47:06 PM PST by AliVeritas (The Christian satan warned you about.)
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To: MinuteGal
I pray you are right, Leni. Mitt as VP would have me doing cartwheels! ;)
940 posted on 02/07/2008 2:51:21 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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