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A vice named Rice [lifelong dem picks McCain's VP]
Jerusalem Post ^ | 2-7-08 | LARRY DERFNER

Posted on 02/07/2008 4:59:51 AM PST by SJackson

Since I've already sold my soul to the devil by coming out for a Republican, John McCain, for president, I might as well go all the way and tell McCain how to beat the Democrats in November: by choosing Condoleezza Rice as his running mate.

It may not be easy getting her to agree; she's supposedly eager to go back to Stanford, and after being national security adviser and secretary of state for the last eight years, she may not see the chance of becoming vice president as such an impressive offer. If that's her attitude, McCain should remind Rice that he's an old man, so there's a possibility that if they win the election, she'd have the Oval Office handed to her automatically at some point, and that even if he completed a term or two, assuming it went reasonably well, she'd be in the catbird seat to get elected president in 2012 or 2016.

And if these arguments don't work, he should just beg or threaten, because I think a McCain-Rice ticket would be very hard for Hillary Clinton - the likely Democratic candidate after Super Tuesday - to beat.

WHEN YOU think of the leading American political figures on the horizon, Rice is right up there. She has more experience in world affairs than anyone, she's probably smarter and more knowledgeable than anyone, and she knows how to get her way. The point can credibly be made that she would be ready to assume the presidency at a moment's notice - a point the Republicans have to be able to make because McCain would enter the White House at age 72, the oldest of any new president in US history.

Rice is attractive and extremely telegenic. She's also a woman and an African-American, which by now aren't fatal flaws in a candidate for president or vice-president, but probably net advantages. This year, for the Republicans, I'd say Rice's gender and race would be nothing less than the gift of life.

Against a Democratic ticket that's definitely going to have a woman or a black man, Barack Obama, at the top - and may have a woman or a black man in the second spot, too - the Republicans have to get some "diversity." They can't run an old, Republican white guy for president and a middle-aged Republican white guy for vice-president - not against this year's Democratic team, not when "change" is supposedly the thing American voters are looking for.

SO MUCH of McCain's appeal is based on being a "maverick," someone who can attract Republicans and Democrats alike. If his running mate is a major Republican figure - all of whom are white men - he will be narrowing his identity and his appeal terribly. It'll make him look like the very thing he's not - a boring, predictable Republican hack.

And if McCain picks a white or Hispanic Republican woman, or a Hispanic or African-American Republican man - none of whom are nationally prominent, with the possible exception of Cuban-born Florida Senator Mel Martinez - it will look like a vote-getting gimmick, which it obviously would be. A presidential candidate in his 70s has no right to pick a gimmick candidate for vice-president.

The one "diversity" running mate McCain could choose who definitely would not be a gimmick, who would be qualified strictly on her record to take over as president if necessary, and who, if anything, would be over-qualified as vice-president, is Rice.

After Tuesday's primaries, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee becomes probably the leading choice to run with McCain; by sweeping the southern primaries, Huckabee proved his strength among Republican evangelicals and "social conservatives," whose distrust of McCain is thought to be the Arizona senator's biggest electoral vulnerability, the one he most needs to neutralize. Pairing Christian pastor Huckabee with McCain would neutralize that distrust, according to the consensus wisdom, and thereby prevent masses of Republican evangelicals and social conservatives from staying home on Election Day.

BUT I don't think that's McCain's biggest worry. I think the prospect of Hillary Clinton or a liberal with the middle name of Hussein becoming president is enough to get all those true-believing Republicans to the polls to vote Republican.

I'd say McCain's biggest worry is that he won't get independents and moderate Democrats to vote for him - which he won't if he runs with Mike Huckabee or somebody else chosen to shore up his support among the Republican Right.

And the best way I can think of, in fact the only way I can think of, for McCain to pull independents and Democratic moderates away from Hillary and/or Obama is by having Rice on his team.

True, she brings the baggage of the Iraq war with her - but McCain does too, so Rice isn't going to weigh him down on that issue anymore than he already is; and anyway the point of McCain's campaign is that the war can be won, that because of the surge the war is being won, and that the most disastrous thing America could do in Iraq is withdraw, which is what the Democrats promise to do.

THAT'S THE key message of McCain's campaign, it's as clear-cut as can be, and whoever rejects it isn't going to reject any more strongly because Rice is McCain's running mate. So her role in the Iraq war shouldn't really be baggage for the GOP ticket at all.

Furthermore, as Republicans go, as the Bush administration goes, Rice is a moderate on foreign policy. On the spectrum of Bush's advisers, she and Defense Secretary Robert Gates are what passes for the left side.

That's also going to appeal to independents and middle-of-the-road Democrats.

Besides, she's a good Christian from Alabama, which ought to pacify the evangelicals somewhat.

I am a Democrat who's never voted for a Republican in his life, but I want McCain to win because I'm convinced that an American withdrawal from Iraq will be a horror show. Beyond that, when I think of all the other issues and personal characteristics to consider before supporting a presidential candidate, I find him easily the most acceptable of any Republican.

Second to McCain, among Republicans, I put Rice. She'd help him more than any other running mate to get to the White House, and she'd do a far and away better job than any of them once she's inside.


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1 posted on 02/07/2008 4:59:54 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

I dont know if that would go over so well with all those racist conservatives. /s


2 posted on 02/07/2008 5:01:50 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: SJackson

I doubt Condi would go for this pandering business towards conservatives—now if SHE were running for Prez, I’d vote for her in a heartbeat!! Is it too late for her to jump in the race?!?

(Okay, I’m getting a little bit desperate here with all the non-choices...) :-(


3 posted on 02/07/2008 5:02:47 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: SJackson
Nice try Dem, Condi is over her head as Secretary of State.

Regards

4 posted on 02/07/2008 5:03:01 AM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: SJackson

She’s dangerously incompetent.

So yes, she would be the perfect vice-president for McCain.


5 posted on 02/07/2008 5:03:02 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

Plus, she is loyal to President Bush, so it’s unlikely she has any affinity for McCain.


6 posted on 02/07/2008 5:04:13 AM PST by Disturbin (Liberals: buying votes with your money)
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To: SJackson
Pick her because she's black and a woman.

Typical Democratic bean-counting racist. Go back to the party that spawned you and leave us alone.

7 posted on 02/07/2008 5:04:28 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: SJackson
"....she'd be in the catbird seat to get elected president in 2012 or 2016."

Baloney! Rice is a middle aged unmarried woman, why? Rice is also not particularly warm and approachable. This is a bad idea.

8 posted on 02/07/2008 5:04:29 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: SJackson
Yeah, that's the ticket. Remind the voters what a 'failure' the Bush Administration has been by bringing the accomodating SecState to the ticket.

Guaranteed loser in November.

9 posted on 02/07/2008 5:05:07 AM PST by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: SJackson
Rice should have been fired for letting the State Department get so out of control that the NIE on Iran completely undermined our efforts there.

There should have been a lot of head rolling at State, and she should have been among the first kicked out the door.

10 posted on 02/07/2008 5:05:12 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: SJackson

Again, I’m left wondering why Republicans want advice from someone who considers the fact that they’ve supported McCain to mean that they have “sold their soul to the devil”....that pretty much sums up how they feel about Republicans in the first place...and really...John McCain...if that’s too conservative for you, then chances are you are only paying lip service to “supporting” him in the first place and can’t wait to rush out and vote for whichever Democrat wins the nomination.


11 posted on 02/07/2008 5:06:35 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan ("When you can't make them see the light; make them feel the heat." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: SJackson

We’ve already had the Dems choose our presidential candidate for us, might as well have them tell us who to run as the veep, too.


12 posted on 02/07/2008 5:08:12 AM PST by Mrs. P (I am most seriously displeased. - Lady Catherine de Bourg)
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To: ARE SOLE

>>Nice try Dem, Condi is over her head as Secretary of State.

Regards<<

Not to mention that McCain would be better with somebody that has a strong economic background - Rice and McCain would be two foreign policy types.

But this article is a long winded way to say “get a black to fight a black” and America really ought to be better than that.


13 posted on 02/07/2008 5:09:18 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: SJackson

So, Derfner is playing the race/gender card for the Republicans. Thanks but no thanks.


14 posted on 02/07/2008 5:10:03 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (I was officially Fredbacker1 but now officially Romney1 and still can't change my name)
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To: agere_contra

So true, but you wouldn’t know that by listening to most. I can’t name a thing the woman has done, not one. I doubt any of those promoting her know one thing about her stand on most of the issues. They know she is black and a woman, that is what they know. They think that will somehow counter Obama and Pantsuit? If so, they have not been paying attention to how the woman has been denigrated by Liberals and Socialists who ‘Uncle Tom” any minority who doesn’t agree with them.


15 posted on 02/07/2008 5:16:58 AM PST by WildcatClan (The epitome of irony is that few entities exist, less common, than common-sense.)
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To: pillut48

Condi’s a State Dept functionary, that’s all.

Re: she’s worthless.


16 posted on 02/07/2008 5:18:15 AM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: SJackson

Interesting proposal.

I loath McCrook but am curious what a Rice or Powell VP ticket might do for him...

There are many voters that can’t get beyond gender and race. This would “level the playing field” if I may use their socially liberal terms.


17 posted on 02/07/2008 5:18:42 AM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: SJackson

Bad idea.

First, Condi is closely associated with the decision to invade Iraq and support Bush’s ignorant running of that war. She hasn’t any foreign policy achievements to help her shine and much to the contrary.

Second, I’m not so sure that conservative Republicans and Democrats are ready to support a minority female.

Third, while she may be more telegenic than Hillary (to some), she is perceived to be almost as arrogant.

Fourth, she is not a great deliverer of the stump speech nor effectiove sound bites. She speaks too calculated and seems to flaunt her education.

This idea won’t fly.

Third,


18 posted on 02/07/2008 5:19:28 AM PST by IssuesOriented
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To: SJackson

Sorry ... Rice is associated with Bush. Plus, we need someone with executive experience, and someone who would help the ticket connect with conservatives. The obvious choices are Tom Pawlenty, Mark Sanford and Haley Barbour. If we absolutely must have a woman, Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska, who is featured in this month’s Vogue magazine.


19 posted on 02/07/2008 5:21:07 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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And if these arguments don't work, he should just beg or threaten...

Just what we need. A vice-president we had to threaten into office.

I know that the vice-presidency is mainly ceremonial, but I would still hope that the qualifications for the job are not merely race and gender. Regardless of what Derfner thinks.

20 posted on 02/07/2008 5:22:04 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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