Are You Willing To Compromise & Surrender What Our Founding Fathers Set Forth For This Republic?

me | February 3, 2003 | callisto

[callisto]

Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them.
- Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of the Causes and Necessities of Taking up Arms, July 6, 1775

Many of us were hoping for a truly Conservative candidate to be our nominee, but Hunter, Tancredo and Thompson made their exits and those who remain are less than substandard by comparison. Some of us are willing to support whomever the Republican nominee may be. I was recently asked if I was willing to compromise my Conservative values and principles to support the nomination of a less than worthy candidate in order to defeat what I think may be the worse destruction leveled on this great nation: the election of Clinton or Obama to the Presidency.

Initially, I understood the question posed but I failed to see the truth behind the question. Fortunately, DoughtyOne, posted a thread asking just how willing we are to compromise those values with a great analogy as to the ramifications of such a compromise. I won’t restate DO’s words as he said them so well himself, but the meaning behind those words have reverberated in my mind since and left me asking myself, “How many of us realize the compromises we are about to make this coming Tuesday?” The more I read and posted on threads this week, the more I realized that many of us are willing to make that compromise without regard to the intent and principles of our Founding Fathers when they created this great nation in which we are fortunate to live.

Our Founding Fathers were eloquent spokesmen on the founding principles of self-government who believed in Liberty, Freedom, Justice and Equality. They believed that Wisdom, Knowledge and Virtue were necessary for the preservation of those rights and liberties. With a stirring language, that reaches the depths of one’s soul, they wrote one of the greatest documents in history which changed the face of this world forever. When they undertook to sign their names to the document they risked their own pursuit of life and happiness to grant us the ability to know and live under the principles they valued most. To denounce the king’s authority was an act of treason, punishable by death, yet 56 determined men picked up quill and ink to sign the Declaration of Independence risking their lives, fortunes, family and all that they held dear.

So I ask each of you, are you willing to give up all that these men gave for so little in return? Because if we refuse to stand up for what is right and principled when given the choice, we will deserve what we receive for accepting what has been handed to us. To many of you I am preaching to the choir, but to others I hope you will read this post and consider the principles on which our nation was founded, and the effects of relinquishing those tenets. Before you go to the polls on Tuesday, consider exactly what is at stake when you cast your vote.

In the words of Samuel Adams, 1781:

Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering his vote that he is not making a present or a compliment to please an individual - or at least that he ought not so to do; but that he is executing one of the most solemn trusts in human society for which he is accountable to God and his country.

[callisto]

Thank you it took years, but I worked hard went back to England when I had too, did my interviews, paid my fees , looked and researched American history for me to understand America a bit better plus I should know the history of the country I settle.

A person who abides by the rules. Thank you. I only wish more immigrants felt the same way you do. I grew up with many who came to our country in the same manner you have and they are, each and everyone, fine upstanding citizens. Of course, back then you had to have a sponsor.

[rlmorel]

No...Thank YOU.

[mimaw]

I’m less than thrilled with our choices in these primaries but I’m not ready to surrender the White House to the Clintons.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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NEVER FORGET

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Honor, Justice and Humanity =

The Enemies of Communism

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Communism’s take over of a then Free South Vietnam during the Vietnam War was backed by Anti-Freedom Americans:

HILLARY RODHAM
WILLIAM CLINTON
TED KENNEDY
JOHN KERRY

Bringing down on a once Free South Vietnamese people a most horrid, decades long...

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..”JOURNEY from the FALL”..

http://www.JourneyFromTheFall.com

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806248/posts

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

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NEVER FORGET

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[Democrat_media]

McCain/Kennedy
McCain/Feingold
McCain/Lieberman
No on Bush Tax cuts
Consideration of VP for John Kerry
Keating 5
Global Warming
NY Times endorsement
LA Times Endorsement
Opposed federal gay marriage (before realizing the consequences)
Pro choice(before realizing the consequences)

McCain’s the candidate of amnesty for illegal aliens.
McCain supports embryonic stem-cell research.
McCain has said “I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade”.
McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts, and refuses to sign the “No New Taxes” pledge.
McCain supports legislation that would increase taxes on energy.
McCain was the ring-leader of the Senate “Gang of 14”, which kept the then Senate Republican leadership from ending the ability of Democrats to filibuster Bush’s judicial nominees.
McCain supports legislation to grant due-process rights to terrorists.
McCain sponsored the inept legislation which restricts free-speech rights of those involved in the political process, (the McCain/Feingold bill)
McCain called evangelical-conservatives an “evil influence” on the Republican Party.
McCain - member of the Keating 5 that caused a bipartisan scandal during the S&L meltdown.
McCain had a recall election ran against him by the conservatives in Arizona.
McCain blocked the investigation into whether Viet Nam and the Soviets were still holding over 600 of our missing POWs in 1990.

This list needs to be spread to all parts of the internet. The liberal mainstream media has hidden all this from the public and they portray McCain as a war hero, patriotic conservative. What McCain is as his record of his actions shows is a Marxist/liberal bent on aiding the invasion by Mexico and bent on putting the U.S. on the road to socialism like Hugo Chavez is in Venezuela.

[callisto]

NEVER FORGET

Indeed!

[Night Hides Not]

Anyone who stands by and lets the Dems take the Presidency is a traitor and enemy of America.

Whoa there cowboy! Time to tap the brakes on the hyperbole before you give yourself a hernia!

If McQueeq is so much better than the Democrats, why is McCain's name so prominently on these bills:

McCain-Kennedy (amnesty)?

McCain-Feingold (DFR)?

McCain-Kennedy-Edwards (patients bill of rights, i.e. a boon to trial lawyers)?

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Compromise and Surrender on the border?

Compromise and Surrender on protecting the states from invasion?

Already done...

[Night Hides Not]

I should have read your post, but I was still on the first 50 replies...good job!

[shove_it]

"As NUTSO as it sounds, I am leaning towards Paul. I cannot support any of the other candidates left in the race."

That's exactly what & why I did in the Florida primary. R. Paul got 3.2% of the vote. It doesn't appear to hold much hope.

[MNJohnnie]

A brokered Convention would almost certainly result in McCain being the nominee. He is the choice of the Republican Party Establishement.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Compromise and Surrender on the border?

Compromise and Surrender on protecting the states from invasion?

Already done...

McCain is a traitor.

[upcountryhorseman]

Our values were destroyed starting in the 1930’s: now
all we need is a democrat President to become a socialist
country.

[callisto]

I agree partially, but all is not “said and done”. wW still have the ability to vote our conscience and heart. Most of us have not had the opportunity to vote in the primaries. My point with the post was to entice those FReepers currently willing to compromise their personal values and beliefs into pausing for a moment to consider what Conservatism means to them.

[MarcoPolo]

Freepers who have enthusiastically supported Romney, McCain, Huckabee and Paul right from the start when there were conservative candidates for the nomination in the race. Of course one would have to conclude that those individuals never had any conservative principles, have confused the GOP with conservatism as if they are equal, and they really shouldn't even be Freepers.

Well, now I've supported Paul from the first, but it's precisely because he supports certain conservative principles that I've always held (on fiscal policy and small government idea in particular). And I've been a Freeper for nearly as long as you have (I used to go by the screen name of MightyPen), so let's not start talking about who should and shouldn't be Freepers.

In fact you and I do agree that Romney, McCain and Huckabee are RINOs. So we're not in total disagreement even.

[callisto]

Our values were destroyed starting in the 1930’s

Not mine! As a whole, yes that was the start of our nation's downfall. But are we willing to let them take what remains away from us? Or shall we let our principles guide us to correct the fallacies of our representatives?

[Afronaut]

If Thomas Jefferson ran for President today, most Freepers would label him as they have labeled Ron Paul, A Kook. I believe that 100%.

People talk the talk but support just the opposite.

[MNJohnnie]

Just how would having McCain in the WH be different then having Hillary? With Hillary the GOP members of Congress will unite to fight her big spending agenda. That is a fight we can win since some of the 69 Conservative Southern Democrat from Red States can be split from the Dem Congressional leadership on fiscal issues. With McCain the GOP would fractionalize between the “can’t we all get along” GOP moderates and the Fiscal Conservatives in the US Congress.

McCain talks a good game on fiscal issues but has done nothing. That talk will not undo the immense damage that a 2nd McCain-Feingold or passage of either McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Leiberman would do to us.

Really think John "Father of the Gang of 14" McCain will fight his good buddies Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Russ Feingold to get you Conservative Judges? Think John "Father of the Baker Commission plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria, close Gitmo and extend the legal protections of the US Consitution to the terrorists" McCain is going to serious fight the WOT?

With McCain we get the worst of all worlds. A mis-labled "Conservative" who will do nothing but push the Democrats agenda while the GOP takes all the political blame for the consequences of those disastrously actions

[MarcoPolo]

Actually I think our values began to be destroyed earlier than that. One particular milestone of degradation was 1913. The income tax and Federal Reserve have done a lot to ruin family values by making it harder and harder for either parent to choose to stay home with the kids more often.

That I think was a seminal year in our destruction of values.

[Liz]

In the words of Samuel Adams, 1781: "Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering his vote that he is not making a present or a compliment to please an individual - or at least that he ought not so to do; but that he is executing one of the most solemn trusts in human society for which he is accountable to God and his country."

I hope we never stray far from this ideal.