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To: Delacon

The problem with this article—and I have great respect for the author—is that a similar litany of awfulness could easily be assembled to describe Slick Willard.


14 posted on 01/31/2008 10:43:04 AM PST by Petronski (People get the kind of government they deserve.)
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To: Petronski
The problem with this article—and I have great respect for the author—is that a similar litany of awfulness could easily be assembled to describe Slick Willard.

That's why I think that our media elite conservatives are more worried that McCain will try to inflict payback on them, whereas Romney would not.

For a lot of them, I think it's less about political principles than about who is likely to hamper their ability to make a living less. In that, they're just like any other lobbying group.
23 posted on 01/31/2008 10:46:06 AM PST by Antoninus ("Make all the promises you have to." --Flip Romney)
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To: Petronski
Mark is right. If you don't vote for Mitt, it is effectively a vote for McCain's nomination. You can spin it and deny it anyway you like. But those are the facts.

This is not some game. This is the future of our country we are talking about. The choosing of those next SCOTUS judges being key. I have no doubt that the holier-than-thou purists can look in the mirror and thank themselves when Hill & Bill are sitting in our Oval Office again selecting the next Ginsburg (or McCain choosing the next O'Connor if he can squeak out a win by some miracle).

Those who cannot see the difference between Mitt and McCain, do so at our country's peril. McCain agrees with them (Hillary & Obama) NOT US (and Mitt) on global warming, immigration, amnesty, marriage amendment, embryonic stem cell research funding, lawyer lobbyists, big government, terrorists' rights, social security for illegals, Gitmo, waterboarding, judges etc.

29 posted on 01/31/2008 10:53:00 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate (Unite 4 Mitt --- Stop McCain)
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To: Petronski
Thats OK. I will take Mark Levin’s version of the events over the hogwash from the msm that you have been posting.
46 posted on 01/31/2008 10:58:43 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Petronski

Refute his points, don’t simply assert that you can.


117 posted on 01/31/2008 11:31:29 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Petronski

“The problem with this article—and I have great respect for the author—is that a similar litany of awfulness could easily be assembled to describe Slick Willard.”

Here are a few that were posted this AM at MSDNC. Romney is extremely smart, but I have little faith that he is anything more than a fair-weather conservative. And I don’t like the feeling that gives me.


No matter how much he spends Mitt can’t fun from his record. He is not honest and he is a conservative only in presidenbtial elections.

Abortion rights

“I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose and am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard.”
Boston Herald Debate, 10/29/02

“Roe v. Wade continues to work its destructive logic throughout our society This can’t continue.”
Speech to the Massachusetts Citizens For Life Mother’s Day Pioneer Valley Dinner, 5/10/07

Immigration reform

“With these 11 million people [here illegally], let’s have them registered, know who they are....those that are here paying taxes and not taking government benefits should begin a process towards application for citizenship.”
Lowell Sun, 3/30/06

“One simple rule: no amnesty.If that [Kennedy-McCain bill] is not a form of amnesty, I don’t know what is.”
New York Times, 6/4/07

Gun laws

“We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them. I won’t chip away at them; I believe they protect us and provide for our safety.”
Romney in 2002 gov. debate, Boston Globe, 1/14/07

“I have a gun of my own. I go hunting myself. I’m a member of the NRA and believe firmly in the right to bear arms.”
Boston Globe, 1/14/07

Amendment to ban gay marriage

“Mitt does not support it...As far as Mitt is concerned, it goes farther than current law, and therefore it’s unnecessary.”
Romney spokesman, Boston Globe, 3/22/02

“When I was Governor, we took every conceivable step within the law to stop, block or slow down this unprecedented court decision.”
Speech to National Right to Life Convention, 6/15/07

“No new taxes” pledge

“I’m not intending to, at this stage, sign a document which would prevent me from being able to look specifically at the revenue needs of the commonwealth”
Associated Press, 3/27/02

“Signing the pledge now sends a very clear message to those in Washington who have voted against tax relief and for tax hikes that such actions will never grow our regional and national economies.”
Romney spokesman, Boston Globe, 1/5/07

Minimum wage

“I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation. I think the minimum wage is a good thing to have in our economy and I think it ought to be updated.”
Boston Globe, 10/17/94

“[T]he challenge with raising the minimum wage excessively is it is a hurt to those that are entering the work force, the very poor, those that are trying to get early jobs, get those first jobs.”
Associated Press, 7/25/06

Cutting Social Security

“I don’t think you go back and rewrite the contract the government has with people who’ve retired.”
Boston Globe, 10/17/94

“Personal accounts would be a big plus.”... [Romney]also said changing the retirement age could be considered, as well as basing the Social Security cost of living adjustment on a different inflation gauge.
Union Leader, 6/7/07

Adoption non-discrimination

Governor Mitt Romney and a legislative leader yesterday delivered unwelcome news to the Catholic bishops of Massachusetts, who plan to seek permission from the state to exclude gay and lesbian parents from adopting children through its social service agencies. The governor said he was not authorized to give such an exemption...
Boston Globe, 2/17/06

“And then another slide along the slippery slope. The Catholic Church was forced to end its adoption service, which was crucial in helping the state find homes for some of our most difficult to place children... Now, even religious freedom was being trumped by the new-found ‘right’ of gay marriage.”
Speech to National Right to Life Convention, 6/15/07

Stem cell research

[Romney]endorsed embryonic stem cell research, saying the controversial science might one day help treat his wife’s multiple sclerosis....”I am in favor of stem cell research. I will work and fight for stem cell research. I’d be happy to talk to [President Bush] about this, though I don’t know if I could budge him an inch.”
Boston Globe, 6/14/02

“FACT: Governor Romney Opposes Using Taxpayer Money to Fund Embryo-Destructive Research.”
MittRomney.com A Record of Protecting Life

Bush tax cuts

Governor Mitt Romney refused yesterday to endorse tax cuts at the heart of President Bush’s economic program...In addition to refusing to endorse the president’s tax cut, the governor surprised several people at the meeting by saying he is open to a federal increase in gas taxes.
Boston Globe, 4/11/0

[Romney] said it was “absolutely critical” to renew tax cuts proposed by President George W. Bush. Letting them expire would result in a “massive tax increase” that would retard economic growth, Romney said.
Detroit Free Press, 2/8/07

Reagan Republicanism

“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.”
Boston Herald, 10/27/94

“Ronald Reagan is ... my hero. ... I believe that our party’s ascendancy began with Ronald Reagan’s brand of visionary and courageous leadership.”
Boston Globe, 1/19/07

Desire to serve in Vietnam

“I was not planning on signing up for the military. It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam...”
Boston Herald, 5/2/94

“I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam.”
Boston Globe, 6/24/07

Peter from NH (Sent Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:13 AM)

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/30/624574.aspx


127 posted on 01/31/2008 11:36:54 AM PST by freespirited (Still a proud member of the Stupid Party. It beats the Evil Party any day of the week.)
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To: Petronski

assuming that is a given, one has the potential to blow his top in a fit of anger, while having access to the “nukular” codes, and one is sane.


146 posted on 01/31/2008 11:40:53 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Petronski

McCain is the author of the most brazen assault on free speech in the modern area. That’s just the first item on McCain’s extensive list. Romney’s blemishes and/or flip-flops don’t hold a candle to McCain’s 8 years of incessant treachery.

I really wish some of you guys would reconsider what you’re doing. At the very least, dedicate as much of your time and effort to taking down the man who’s declared war on conservatism and has surrounded himself with likeminded crusaders (like Giuliani, Schwarzenegger, Martinez, Crist, Hernandez, Perry, etc.).


433 posted on 01/31/2008 3:54:01 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("I didn't raise taxes. I raised hope" - The Huckster)
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