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Obama Still Linked to NOI?
lgf ^ | Jan 30, 2008

Posted on 01/30/2008 11:08:53 AM PST by george76

Barack Obama has publicly repudiated Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, but Debbie Schlussel says she’s spoken with an Obama insider, who told her that Obama continues to employ several Farrakhan followers in his campaign.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: barack; barackhussein; barackhusseinobama; barackobama; blackchurch; democrats; elections; farrakhan; hussein; islam; manchuriancandidate; messiah; nationofislam; noi; obama; sharia; taquiyya; ucc
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1 posted on 01/30/2008 11:08:53 AM PST by george76
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To: Fred Nerks; Candor7

Obama’s father was Muslim. Therefore, under Sharia Law he is automatically a Muslim by birth.

Obama was listed as a Muslim on the school forms when he attended a madrassa in Indonesia. Therefore he is legally a Muslim.

ht Kenneth


2 posted on 01/30/2008 11:11:09 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Barack Obama has publicly repudiated Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, but Debbie Schlussel says she’s spoken with an Obama Clinton insider, who told her that Obama continues to employ several Farrakhan followers in his campaign.

I think that may more accurate.

3 posted on 01/30/2008 11:11:18 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: george76

Muslims can’t be members of Christian churches.


4 posted on 01/30/2008 11:11:47 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Beckwith; brityank

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5 posted on 01/30/2008 11:12:14 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jan in Colorado; freekitty; LucyT

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/obamas_nation_o.html


6 posted on 01/30/2008 11:13:31 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

>>Obama’s father was Muslim. Therefore, under Sharia Law he is automatically a Muslim by birth.

Obama was listed as a Muslim on the school forms when he attended a madrassa in Indonesia. Therefore he is legally a Muslim.<<

I am not gonna take a Sharia law definition - Christianity is in the heart, the soul and the deeds, not in how Muslim law would like to define it.


7 posted on 01/30/2008 11:15:28 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: forkinsocket; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle

” He now attends a nominally Christian church, with a pastor who was formerly a member of the Nation of Islam. The website for this church lists their guiding principles, none of which mention Jesus.

Through the doctine of Taqayya, Islam permits Muslims to dissemble their faith in order to defend or promote Islam.

Obama is either an apostate Muslim or a secret Muslim. There are no other options.”

ht Kenneth


8 posted on 01/30/2008 11:17:48 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Hmm. Silky Pony as Attorney General and Calypso Louie as Secretary of State?


9 posted on 01/30/2008 11:19:28 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("A dead whale or a stove boat!")
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To: AppyPappy; Cicero; Chgogal

He is not an airy idealist. That’s just political cover. His own writings reveal that he repudiated his hippy idealist mother and his white grandparents, who took over the job of raising him. His ideal is to be like his father: black, tribalist, and Muslim.

His support for Odinga and the Christian-burning Muslim terrorists in Kenya confirms that.

Also significant is that he gravitated to a black power church, which is clearly modeled on the Black Muslims, although it labels itself “Christian.” Might as well elect Louis Farrakhan to the White House. At least he’s open about his beliefs.

He knows that he needs to appeal to the hippie left if he is to have a chance of winning. But that isn’t where his heart belongs.

by Cicero


10 posted on 01/30/2008 11:24:01 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks george.


11 posted on 01/30/2008 11:24:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: george76

Barrack Hussein Obama is employing the politics of doublespeak and divisiveness to lure young pepole to his side.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1961556/posts


12 posted on 01/30/2008 11:27:07 AM PST by tomnbeverly (The Democrats have become propaganda tools of our enemies.)
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To: CholeraJoe; kcvl

Barack Obama takes a shot at Ted Kennedy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlvJ8bA6_xA


13 posted on 01/30/2008 11:27:15 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
His ideal is to be like his father: black, tribalist, and Muslim.

Sure. Of course.

14 posted on 01/30/2008 11:28:12 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

there are many questions about his past which need to be asked but of course the media won’t ask them for being branded a racist or soemthing.

why was it also good to talk about Bush’s drinking yet the very same people say we can’t talk about his drug use and it wasn’t just soft drugs either, or how about how he was raised, what his mninister is like and how the church he goes to is racist

of course he won’t say this publically but if you look into who he hangs around with, where he goes and his past then Obama is certainly more than meets the eye


15 posted on 01/30/2008 11:33:38 AM PST by manc
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To: george76

I believe that the very fact that Obama cannot be questioned as rigorously in the media as any other candidate, for fear of being branded “racist”, is as compelling an argument for not voting for him as any I have seen. Including the fact that he is a vacuous orator, devoid of practical experience.


16 posted on 01/30/2008 11:44:15 AM PST by AbeKrieger (There is a special place in Hell for Lyndon Johnson.)
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To: AbeKrieger; SJackson

Barack Obama’s longtime minister, mentor, and sounding board has been a key supporter of Louis Farrakhan and last month honored the Nation of Islam leader for lifetime achievement.

Farrakhan has repeatedly made hate-filled statements targeting Jews, whites, America, and homosexuals. He has called whites “blue-eyed devils” and the “anti-Christ.” He has described Jews as “bloodsuckers” who control the government, the media, and some black organizations.

“Do you know some of these satanic Jews have taken over BET ?” Farrakhan said in a speech on Nov. 11, 2007...

The month after that speech, Obama’s minister and friend, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. and his Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, honored Farrakhan at a gala, bestowing on him its Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer award.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1953757/posts


17 posted on 01/30/2008 11:51:41 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; Graybeard58
Hey . . . I thought I recognized this picture!


18 posted on 01/30/2008 12:41:19 PM PST by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: george76

Blacks don’t care. I read an article this morning by some nationally syndicated black columnist that was entitled something to teh effect of “So what if Obama’s a Muslim?”

Everybody already knows he goes to a bizarre black-power, Africanist “church,” and that doesn’t seem to bother anybody of any color.

Having Obama as the candidate is the only thing that would make me vote for any of the current Republican crop.


19 posted on 01/30/2008 12:46:19 PM PST by livius
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To: george76
Farrakhan's paper is taking a cautious, but optimistic, position on their editorial page. I'm sure he's proud of the Final Call endorsement. An endorsement he should reject.

FCN Editorial - Is America’s attitude changing?
By FinalCall.com News
Updated Jan 14, 2008, 04:21 pm

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It is fundamentally implausible that a Black man could ever be President of the United States.


Our hope is that America will take the best of the Obama message, commit herself to and begin the long and arduous journey to reverse her present course, which cannot be done without justice for the children of her ex-slaves and all who still yearn to breathe free.


And yet, a Black man, a first-term U.S. senator from Illinois with a name from Kenyan descent, has electrified the country and captured international attention with his bid to become the Democratic Party’s 2008 White House nominee. His political success in almost “lily White” Iowa and potential success in upcoming primaries, have boggled the minds of political scientists, pundits, and informed observers alike. Even the GOP candidates are asked to explain “Obamania” and react to this new phenomenon. What is happening here?

There was a time when a Black man with an African or Islamic sounding-name, like Muhammad Ali or Kareem Abdul Jabaar, was deeply misunderstood.

But in 2007 with Americans disgusted with Capitol Hill gridlock, distrustful of the man who currently occupies the White House, unsettled by an unpopular war, worried about escalating oil and gas prices, buffeted by home losses and a home mortgage crisis, hit by unemployment, fearful of loss of their middle class status, and generally uncertain about the future, a candidate with the name Barack Obama is inspiring hope for meaningful change.

Mr. Obama has made what one commentator called a move for “vertical politics,” not right nor left, but politics aimed at pulling the country together across political and racial lines. Recent presidential elections have seen a divided electorate with Democrats and Republicans searching for that sliver of an advantage to achieve victory.

Instead of trying to slice off a segment of voters for a political win, Mr. Obama has called for expansion of the electorate by urging and inspiring more people, young people in particular, to get involved in the process.

He has risen above crass appeals based on single issues or divisive “us” versus “them” arguments to call on Americans to unite and embrace a willingness to seek common ground for the good of the country.

While Sen. Hillary Clinton was surrounded by the faces of the political old guard when she spoke after Iowa Caucus results were final, a sea of enthusiastic young, old, middle-aged and multi-racial Americans roared their approval of Obama and his call for a new age in U.S. politics.

In this presidential campaign, Sen. Obama “has been groomed, and wisely so, to be seen more as a unifier, rather than one who speaks only for the hurt of Black people. In this, he has tapped the dissatisfaction of many Whites, Blacks, Hispanics and Asians across the spectrum, because who cares what color you are if you can save them from the mess that they find themselves in,” observed the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan in a recent interview with The Final Call.

It appears that American voters are generally fed up with the deceit, the lies, the corruption, the war, the fear-mongering, and the cronyism of the Bush administration. After eight years of ruinous policies perpetrated by the 43rd president, Blacks, Whites, young and old, seem to want fresh, new ideas and thinking in leadership.

While Sen. Obama does not drape himself in the mantle of the nationalist Red, Black, and Green flag of Marcus Garvey, he is acutely aware upon whose shoulders he stands—Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Rep. Shirley Chisholm, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sen. Carole Mosley-Braun, the Rev. Al Sharpton, Dick Gregory, and others.

Sen. Obama had just graduated from Columbia University when the Rev. Jackson launched his historic 1984 Presidential campaign and, according to published reports, once told the Rev. Jackson that watching him debate Walter Mondale and Gary Hart, inspired him.

Rep. Chisholm, a Black congresswoman from New York, made the bold move in 1972 to seek a major party nomination for president. “Catalyst for Change. Chisholm for President ‘72” read one of her campaign buttons. The first Black woman elected to Congress ran as someone who was “unbought, unbossed” and ready to represent all Americans. “I ran for the presidency, despite hopeless odds, to demonstrate sheer will and refusal to accept the status quo,” she once said. She wanted change.

Once Rep. Chisholm smashed the glass ceiling, Rev. Jackson further inspired Blacks and others with presidential runs in 1984 and 1988. With his signature themes of “Keep Hope Alive” and “Our Time Has Come,” the civil rights leader stressed the need to expand the base of the party and registered millions of new voters. He was a voice for the voiceless in politics and campaigned against corporate and divisive interests, and for dialogue with the Palestinian people in their quest for justice against the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

He spoke to the hurt of the Black community but forged a Rainbow Coalition to seek justice for all. He called for justice for the Palestinians, endured death threats and argued America could be better, stronger and more progressive if everyone had a fair shot at success, and equal opportunity.

Rev. Jackson strode through Iowa cow pastures in overalls, demanded a fair shake for family farmers, better access to health care and economic policies that favored everyday people.

“Leadership must heed the call of conscience, redemption, expansion, healing and unity, for they are the key to achieving our mission. Time is neutral and does not change things. With courage and initiative, leaders can change things,” he said in his 1984 speech to the Democratic National Convention.

Black candidates for president have never tried to take the country back to the “good old days,” like Ronald Reagan, their call has always been for more justice, more freedom, true equality, for change.

Mr. Obama’s call is inspiring greater hope and increased grassroots activism. People are starting to believe in the promise, or the potential, of what America could be as a Nation, if she would live up to the true meaning of her creed.“We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal. And endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, the right of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

Still, as Sen. Obama has talked about “One America,” “the United States of America,” the country’s reality is sadly different. America still suffers from segregation in housing patterns and schools. Blacks and Latinos still lag behind when it comes to income, education, jobs and healthcare. Racial profiling remains a problem and poverty continues to grind away at the lives of those stuck in the ghettos, barrios and trailer parks of America.

In a trade-off for his change and unity message, Sen. Obama has run a race neutral campaign in a year with increased racial violence and high-profile cases of Blacks targeted by law enforcement. That says something about the reality of America.

Even a man who inspires millions and who is described as transcending from an individual into a movement must tread lightly, or not at all, when it comes to matters of race and justice. The pain, the problem, the strife is too deeply rooted in 400 years of the American experience to simply be uprooted by a single political campaign or a lone presidential candidate.

It is in fact up to Black thinkers, leaders, activists and all of us to remind the presidential candidates, senatorial candidates, congressional candidates, gubernatorial candidates, and state legislative candidates, and even mayoral and city council candidates of the need to address the long-unsolved problems in this country.

We must not let down our guard because of a friendly face, or even a face that looks like us that may reside in the White House. We must press our cause and our issues, just as others put forward issues candidates should address. We must forge a Black United Front, organize and galvanize support for our cause and do all that we can to help ourselves.

We must also remember these insightful words from Min. Farrakhan: “There are forces which Sen. Obama may see, or may not see, and these are the forces that kill U.S. presidents when the presidents don’t act as they think the president should act to further their ends; thus the killing of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy.

“The forces of racism in this country are still very strong. Even though there is strong mass appeal, if the racist elements in this country thinks that Barack Obama really will be our next president, they may come out of the woodwork if they can’t bend him, and hurt our Brother, and therefore show the country though the masses may say, ‘We like him,’ the forces may say ‘He is not one of us.’ ”

Our hope is that America will take the best of the Obama message, commit herself to and begin the long and arduous journey to reverse her present course, which cannot be done without justice for the children of her ex-slaves and all who still yearn to breathe free.

 


20 posted on 01/30/2008 1:05:04 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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