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It Boils Down To California On Super Tuesday (Stopping McCain)
1/30/08 | Self

Posted on 01/30/2008 5:05:17 AM PST by Nextrush

I'm angry about how things are going, I won't mince my words.

To watch the Establishment shove McCain into us disgusts me.

Lets look at how to win next Tuesday with tactical voting for Romney in key states with Huck being the only option down South.

For starters, Romney is a winner in Massachusetts. He's ahead 20 points in last week's polling, at least. I expect a win for Mitt in Utah, plus polling shows a big Romney lead in Colorado for the caucuses there next Tuesday.

Romney has three states in his bag.

Now he has to get some others. I hope Illinois is one of them, plus Missouri. Missouri is 58 WINNER TAKE ALL DELEGATES.

I think the South is a lost cause with Huck in there now getting organized pro-life support. The state affiliates of National Right To Life want pro-life voters parked with Huck next Tuesday for whatever reason.

That will firmly prevent any Romney chance in those states which either Huckabee or McCain will win.

Down south West Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas and Oklahoma, its a vote for Huckabee to beat McCain in those states.

I expect McCain to win some of them unfortunately.

Now out west Montana looks like a state for Romney to try for.

In the East McCain will sweep New York (101 WINNER TAKE ALL DELEGATES), New Jersey and I'm certain of Connecticut.

Delaware is also a McCain win, along with Arizona, although Mitt will get a substantial vote there from his fellow Mormons.

Alaska is a wild card. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ron Paul do well there. Maybe the vote will mix there to a Huck win.

Minnesota is voting as well and I don't know what to expect there. Maybe Mitt could do something there or in North Dakota. But I suspect McCain wins in both.

That brings us to the big prize. California. 173 delegates.

This is the one state that would give Mitt any bragging rights next Tuesday and so he must win there.

It will take an all out conservative effort with amnesty being a key issue.

Take the gloves off and pound McCain. Hold him to Kennedy-McCain, McCain-Kennedy, etc.

Is Tom McClintock in on Mitt's side?

Right now Ahnold is uncommitted. He may be held back to endorse McCain at the last minute for what its worth.

California is the key to Romney's survival and viability.

If he loses there McCain will have it for sure.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: ca2008; johnmccain; marines; mikehuckabee; mittromney; romney; supertuesday
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To: ExSoldier

I guess his area has something to do with it... but he has too many documented pro-abortion, anti-gun, tax-increasing positions for anything he says to ring true. It’s not like he is saying “hey, I did my best in a liberal area”. He is rather simply denying history. He strikes me as either having no strength of character or being a hideous liar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYTdM9b5F4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pVqZzHm3Z4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962051/posts?page=39#39

I do think there’s a pretty good chance on the Huckabee Veep thing.


121 posted on 01/30/2008 12:15:50 PM PST by madconservative (Founding member of the Constantinople Liberation Organization.)
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To: Fiji Hill
In 1964, it was California's conservatives who put Goldwater over the top for the GOP nomination. We did it before, and we can do it again.

California in 2008 is not the same kind of State it was in 1964.

122 posted on 01/30/2008 12:19:31 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Afronaut
Romney must be stopped.

You've got to be kidding! Have you read your own tagline recently?

Romney is absolutely the best option to stop the illegal immigrant overrun of our country. He has actually done something about it, in Massachusetts.

What has McCain done? He's for illegals!

What has Huckabee done? *crickets chirping*

123 posted on 01/30/2008 12:21:54 PM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: Afronaut

Your need to be stopped.


124 posted on 01/30/2008 12:34:13 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: Earthdweller
To all:
No one is holding a gun the head of Republicans who vote for McCain!
I find the constant prattling about how the GOP elite has given us McCain. If no one voted for him he would be gone! He is not the only candidate!
For whatever reason a plurality of GOP’ers are choosing this clown. Florida proved it wasn’t just cross-over democrats & independents. McCain has at least a 1/3 (maybe more!) of the GOP electorate buffaloed.
The GOP rank & file are more to blame for our current state of affairs then the GOP leadership.
I expect democrats to vote irrationally, its disheartening to see GOP’ers do so.
125 posted on 01/30/2008 12:42:49 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily
For whatever reason a plurality of GOP’ers are choosing this clown.

Exit polls are indicating that a significant number of McCain voters were not really Republicans at all.

Assuming that most of the GOP likes McCain because of the primary results would be incorrect.

126 posted on 01/30/2008 12:47:25 PM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: TChris
Well I would accept that argument up until the Fla primary.
However as I understand it, it was a closed primary. (Maybe I am wrong about this!) If indeed Fla was closed, then at least 1/3 of GOP’er buy into the McCain brand of snake oil !
127 posted on 01/30/2008 1:00:13 PM PST by Reily
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To: Nextrush

California is giving out GOP delegates by congressional district this year. So to follow your strategy of stopping McCain, conservative voters would need to look at whether Huckabee or Romney has the better chance in their area and vote accordingly.


128 posted on 01/30/2008 2:37:01 PM PST by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20)
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To: Nextrush

An article with more info on how the California delegate process will work this year.
“Race for ‘08: Republican primary rules make politics local again”
http://www.sacbee.com/341/story/602198.html

The difficult part is determining who is more likely to win in your congressional district. The likelihood of good polling on that level being available to the public is virtually nil.

If you are not able to get a good sense of how your congressional district is leaning, it may make sense to make your decision on other factors.

For instance, if a candidate makes a stop in your area and it is rather out of the way, that may be an indication that internal polling is showing that candidate doing well there. Also, taking into account the areas where each candidate has done well demographically may work. If you are in an upscale or strongly Mormon area, voting for Romney would probably make the most sense strategically. If you live in an area with a strong evangelical constituency or a lot of transplanted Southerners or more blue-collar or working class or more rural with hunters and strong 2nd amendment support, then Huckabee would probably stand a better chance.

In broad terms, I would guess Huckabee is the best bet in the Central Valley and the foothills. Romney would probably be better in upscale urban enclaves. The suburbs of the big cities would vary widely based on local nuances.

California is definitely a wildcard this year.


129 posted on 01/30/2008 3:18:54 PM PST by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20)
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To: kellynla
Class Dismissed!

Oh goody, it's time for recess! What? Are we in grade school?

That was one of the most juvenile comments I've ever seen on FreeRepublic.

130 posted on 01/30/2008 8:28:52 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: advance_copy

“I don’t know how any California Republican could vote for John McCain. Mitt Romney signed English-only in schools and vetoed in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. John McCain tried to push shamnesty. That alone is more than enough reason to vote Romney.”

Right! And did you hear McCain tonight? Just last week McCain said he WOULD sign the immigration bill if it came to his desk but that it won’t come to his desk because the people want the fence first. Then tonight McCain said he WOULD NOT sign the immigration bill if it came to his desk but that it won’t come to his desk because the people want the fence first! Does anyone make any sense out of that?? I do. McCain would first put the fairness doctrine in place and then sign the biggest amnesty legislation that simply FORGETS the fence! Anyone who would vote in such a way as to allow McCain anywhere near the White House is not a conservative! I pray folks see that Mitt Romney is the best choice and the most conservative candidate left who has a chance to beat McCAin. The MSM is hoping for a McCAin win to ensure Hillary is in the White House!


131 posted on 01/30/2008 8:40:05 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: bmwcyle

Three cheers to you!


132 posted on 01/30/2008 9:38:13 PM PST by sw67
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To: Nextrush

Hate to disillusion you but CA will give John a rousing ok. The Guvernator and Rudy will see to it.


133 posted on 01/30/2008 9:45:38 PM PST by Hattie
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To: mtairycitizen

Only when it is too late and the media turns on him will McCrazy realize he was being used all along. I am pulling for Mitt now, but the last few years have been a disappointment and I don’t see a change in the weather coming. 06 was a disaster. Steele losing in Maryland, Ehrlich in Maryland, George Allen in Virginia, the rest of the Senate and house. Ugh.


134 posted on 01/30/2008 9:52:04 PM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: Cedric
The MSM will not ?savage? McCain during the general election campaign.

Of course not. They will simply repeat what the Dem Machine puts out. It will be "Some people say......" The NYT article reports.... And the film clips will be priceless as John mumbles, appears confused, forgets.

135 posted on 01/30/2008 9:52:51 PM PST by Hattie
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To: kellynla

I pray to God that those 20 counties and more don’t vote for McCain. I will believe that Reagan’s California still exists until they prove me wrong.


136 posted on 01/30/2008 9:54:54 PM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: Nextrush
Uh, Huck and McCain are working together to stop Romney. Someone is financing Huck to stay in. If the race was just between McCain and Romney, Mitt would win. That has been the plan from the beginning.

Huck will win the Southern states because of the Evangelicals. Huck will get something out of the deal but not VP I don't think. McCain will have to have a young guy with lots of economy experience, probably some big lib.

137 posted on 01/30/2008 10:10:29 PM PST by Hattie
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To: spacejunkie

I would guess Romney would tell McCain to stuff it. Beckel is a big shill who knows nothing.


138 posted on 01/30/2008 10:15:14 PM PST by Hattie
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To: madconservative
What about the water carrying TV who has given McCain millions of dollars worth of free advertisements. All the while telling Romney and Rudy it was time to drop out, drop out. Did they tell Edwards to drop out? No. They have been having a love fest over McCain.

As to talk radio, they are not news people; they say what they are, and they can comment whenever they want. The TV media is not supposed to do that. My tax money pays for public TV and Jim Leher spends every day gaga over McCain and trashing or ignoring all other Republican candidates.

139 posted on 01/30/2008 10:22:00 PM PST by Hattie
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To: CollegeRepublican

We don’t have to “prove” anything to you, junior.

Unless you get into the fight and move here, I suggest you mind your own business & deal with MD problems(you certainly have enough of them) and let those of us who live, vote, work & pay taxes in CA deal with CA.

Class Dismissed.


140 posted on 01/31/2008 5:28:24 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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