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Is todays primary <B>THE</B> election? (Are we electing Hillary today?)
self | bigjoesaddle

Posted on 01/29/2008 7:28:48 AM PST by bigjoesaddle

Do the Florida voters realize they may be electing Hillary as President today? THe conservatives in America cannot vote for this guy McCain. For 8 years he has been President Bush's primary backstabber, and the arguements against him are too numerous for this post.

This day could be historic. In the future when they ask "where were you when Hillary Clinton was elected president?", You may have to tell them where you heard McCain won the Florida Primary on January 29th, 2008.


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To: bigjoesaddle

A Romney nomination guarantees a Hillary victory.

If McCain wins the nomination and the general election, we only get Hillary light.


21 posted on 01/29/2008 7:39:18 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: bigjoesaddle

The last intangible in the Florida primary is what has been a trend in this primary season to go against “momentum”. In NH voters said, No to Barack when he could’ve knocked out Hill. In Michigan voters said, no to McCain.

If Florida goes for McCain, it makes McCain all but inevitable. So far people seem to have resisted inevitability.


22 posted on 01/29/2008 7:39:47 AM PST by crescen7 (game on)
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To: TornadoAlley3

No, independents CANNOT vote for McCain in Florida. You have to be a registered Republican. That is why I have hope that Romney can win.


23 posted on 01/29/2008 7:40:36 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: bigjoesaddle
Here in the Florida Panhandle (Panama City), we are the conservative stronghold of the state. But, unlike the rest of the state, we are in the central time zone, so the polls close an hour later and some news media forget this fact when announcing results.

At the beginning of the coverage, they are always flooded with results from the liberal east coast and it's very deceptive.

24 posted on 01/29/2008 7:40:59 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: bigjoesaddle

25 posted on 01/29/2008 7:41:33 AM PST by sourcery (Electile Disfunction: The inability to get excited about any of the available candidates)
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To: bigjoesaddle

The conservatives in America cannot vote for this guy McCain...


...or Rudy, or Mitt, or Huckabee.


26 posted on 01/29/2008 7:42:24 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: Ingtar

“Many Conservatives, especially Social Conservatives, will not vote for..Romney.” ~ Ingtar

Why?

NY Times thecaucusblog/Comments section [Mass. voters talking about Romney on May 11, 2007]:

“.. he stated that he supported gay rights, but then attempted to have a Constitutional ammendment added to the ballot to have gay marriage banned in the state. ..”

“I firmly believe that he’ll ‘change his mind’ and go agree with his base if he’s elected just like he did on the abortion right’s issue. ..”

“.I will never forget when he vetoed the stem cell legilation after the bills’ sponsors had worked so hard at generating bi-partisan support. And he vetoed the bill ...”

“...If you want to know what Mitt is really about, please try to find his speeches to the Federalist Society to see what he’s really made of. ..”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com

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11/10/2005 Mitt Romney addresses the Federalist Society
http://www2.nationalreview.com/corner/romneyaddress.pdf

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What is the Federalist Society?:

“...the Federalist Society, the expanding network of conservative lawyers who over the past quarter-century have played a leading role in reshaping the nation’s judiciary and setting high-level Republican administration policy. ..

[...]

“..One of the group’s founding fathers was Edwin Meese, who would soon become attorney general under President Ronald Reagan. Olson was part of that Justice Department, and so was Giuliani, who served as its third-highest official. The plan was to sow talented conservatives at every level of the federal judiciary and ultimately gain a foothold at the Supreme Court. “That was very much on our minds,” Olson said.

It appears to be working as planned. When he took office in 2001, Bush leaned heavily on Federalists to create a legal power structure to continue the work of seeding the judiciary. Roberts, along with fellow conservatives Alito, Scalia and Thomas, now form a formidable bloc on the Supreme Court.

[...]

Split among GOP camps

But as the Federalists have grown, they haven’t been immune to internal fissures. Federalists have key figures in both the Romney and Thompson campaigns who believe their candidate is a more worthy vessel for their legal philosophies. And they say they haven’t had to make the sort of compromise that Giuliani’s conservative supporters have.

David McIntosh, a former Indiana GOP congressman and gubernatorial candidate, is vice chairman of the Federalist Society, and he’s a domestic policy adviser to Thompson. Douglas Kmiec, another high-ranking official in the Reagan Justice Department, has gone with Romney, whom he calls “authentic.”

More: http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/09/giuliani_burnishes_conservativ.html

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Governor Mitt Romney Announces The Advisory Committee On The Constitution And The Courts
http://www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/Constitution_Courts


27 posted on 01/29/2008 7:42:37 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Vote MITT ROMNEY and Florida WILL STOP McCAIN COLD!!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

LOL!!!......I can’t believe the poll workers are THAT stupid (yes I can)...........


28 posted on 01/29/2008 7:43:29 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: crescen7

If Florida goes for McCain, it makes McCain all but inevitable. So far people seem to have resisted inevitability.
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I think it’s the reverse. Romney has the $’s . . . he can do well on super-Tuesday regardless. I think McCain/Huckabee are the best votes today to keep this thing from getting locked up for a RINO.


29 posted on 01/29/2008 7:50:04 AM PST by Greg F (Romney appointed homosexual activists as judges in Massachusetts.)
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To: TCats

A very good analysis. I call McCain “it’s my turn McDole”.


30 posted on 01/29/2008 7:59:04 AM PST by khnyny (2008: A Space Odyssey/ Clintons=HAL)
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To: Beelzebubba

Worst crop of Rinos in history.


31 posted on 01/29/2008 8:01:25 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

I have been surprised that so many top Democrat Socialist “leaders” have endorsed Obama, who has been a U.S. senator for just over three years. This makes one wonder if all the popular superdelegates are as committed to HRC as I had always assumed. Anyway, the Democrats are elated with all the socialist choices out there. Some 500,000 SC voters voted 100 percent socialist on Saturday! This from the first state to secede in 1860. I guess without ol’ Strom around to “guide” them, SC people are lost as a goose.


32 posted on 01/29/2008 8:02:52 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: bigjoesaddle

Get a grip! There are several months left until the General Election. As we have already seen in this primary season, anything can happen at almost any time. Each of the top three GOP candidates has been touted as the next new thing at some point in this campaign, as have Her Heinous and Obama. It’s a strange year, but I think Her Heinous has WAY too many negatives to be elected President.


33 posted on 01/29/2008 8:07:48 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: bigjoesaddle

Actually — I’m rooting for Hillary in the Democratic Primary. She’s far less formidible than Obama. Obama is likeable, can be inspiring to lefties, and has the capability of swinging the center with an optimistic message and speaking style.

Hillary is obnoxious, highly disliked by anyone from the middle rightward, and her disapproval ratings are astronomical. Plus, if we beat her now in the general election — she’ll probably leave her Presidential aspirations for good. If she loses the primary, she’ll be back.

Go Hillary!

Romney/Thompson ‘08

H


34 posted on 01/29/2008 8:09:49 AM PST by SnakeDoctor
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To: Theodore R.
I think the American People would be great at electing a leader, if they were allowed to see ALL the candidates instead of the media "trimming the field" in the interest of the debates. The American people elected President Bush twice which was the better choice of either AlGore or John F'ing Kerry. I know there has been alot of things that Bush has done that us true conservatives did not agree with, but his leadership after 9/11 and into the Iraq War was exactly what we needed at the time. I dread to think what would have happened if Gore had been in office on that day.
As a sidenote, I have a friend that actually believes that if Gore was in office, 9/11 wouldn't have happened. When she said that, I laughed out loud. I live in Madison, WI, you see. If you don't laugh at those innane, idiotic, statements you'll go insane.
35 posted on 01/29/2008 8:10:53 AM PST by Sulsa ("If you think health care is expensive now, wait until is free." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Matchett-PI

Why? Because he says a lot of good things while doing mostly things that contradict what he says.


36 posted on 01/29/2008 8:17:28 AM PST by Ingtar (Thompson - delegates, Huckabee - brokered, Keyes - Only C left. Which one on 2/5?)
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To: Matchett-PI
I am a conservative and I won’t vote for Romney. I refuse to cast a vote in the hope that he is a liar, as you suggest.

He has advocated big bail-outs for the auto industry and quazi-government health care in the last few weeks alone. He is on record as being pro-abortion, anti-gun, and as a supporter of gay rights. His “conversions” are far too in line with election cycles to ring even slightly true. One gets the feeling that he will say anything to put president on his resume. I swear in Michigan I thought he would promise that under his administration nobody would get the flu and all mosquitoes would die in a strawberry scented burst his first day in office. He is a liberal (if I take him at his word) at worst, or an outright liar at best (not sure if I identified best and worst right in that phrase).

Oh yeah, and he will get crushed in the general. I can already hear the democratic narrative: “Rich white Rockefellar Republican who made a living buying and breaking up companies... wasn’t it just four years ago that the Republicans attacked John Kerry as a ‘flip-flopper’? Well, let me tell you a little about Mitt...” Even the guy’s name sounds like he was born with a frat pin. Was Chet already taken in the family?

One needs only show a few strung together clips of his past interviews to deflate the social conservatives.

I don’t think McCain is exactly a prize, but I am choosing him for his leadership on national security and with the exception of the stem cells debacle, anti-abortion position. I also think he will perform MUCH better against the Democrats. McCain gives the impression of command on the terrorist issue, which I think is the best counterweight for the progressiveness of voting for a woman or black candidate that the soccer moms will feel. Men admire McCain.

All that being said, as a person who tends to be an idealist... when I think of how the Republicans refuse to back a real and viable conservative (of which I saw none), I am extremely dejected and bitter, so maybe we have already lost.

37 posted on 01/29/2008 8:19:23 AM PST by madconservative (Founding member of the Constantinople Liberation Organization.)
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To: khnyny

I’d rather put Dole up there than John Kerry.


38 posted on 01/29/2008 8:20:56 AM PST by madconservative (Founding member of the Constantinople Liberation Organization.)
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To: madconservative

You’re entitled to your bitter delusions.


39 posted on 01/29/2008 8:28:02 AM PST by khnyny (2008: A Space Odyssey/ Clintons=HAL)
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To: capt. norm

Wait a minute....trying to understand. They won’t start reporting returns until ALL the polls are closed, including those in the Panhandle. But you are saying the early returns after all the Polls are closed will NOT reflect the Panhandle. So we can sort of expect to see an early McCain lead as the first votes are counted. I want to make sure I understand all this as I watch the returns tonight.


40 posted on 01/29/2008 8:33:49 AM PST by Boanarges
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