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Math + religion = Trouble
The Star ^ | Jan 26, 2008 | Ron Csillag

Posted on 01/28/2008 9:20:07 AM PST by forkinsocket

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1 posted on 01/28/2008 9:20:08 AM PST by forkinsocket
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"With or without religion, good people will do good, and evil people will do evil. But for good people to do evil, that takes religion."

Bovine Excrement.

2 posted on 01/28/2008 9:25:48 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: forkinsocket

One, two, five.


3 posted on 01/28/2008 9:26:13 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
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To: forkinsocket

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4 posted on 01/28/2008 9:26:28 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: MrEdd
One, two, five.

You left out three.

Next is seven.

5 posted on 01/28/2008 9:28:15 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: forkinsocket
As for the problem of good and evil, he defers to fellow atheist, the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Steven Weinberg: "With or without religion, good people will do good, and evil people will do evil. But for good people to do evil, that takes religion."

It is a nice sounding theory that when you separate the Christian Church from the state, you get stability, but it does not pass the common sense test.

For instance, I know it is the first words out of any atheist mouth when you try to talk with them about Jesus, “Explain the Inquisition," and “Look how evil the church was!" and "Look what they did in the name of Jesus!"

It is true that about 500 years ago, Christian fanatics killed about 10,000 people over a 100 year time period (about 100/year) in the name of the Roman Catholic church. It is a shame on the record of an organization that claims to be promoting the ministry of Christ. Now compare this record to the example of the countries that have officially done away with religion. To the countries that have outright banned religion and imprisoned those who try to practice it (the ultimate test of the theory of separation of church and state).

Yes, I am talking about Communist countries. In the Communist Manifesto, Engel and Marx declared, "Communism abolishes all religion." In my father's lifetime, the numbers of people that officially atheist countries have murdered in the name of no-religion is staggering; the USSR slaughtered 20 million, China slaughtered 10 million, Communist Cambodia slaughtered 2 million, Communist North Korea has/continues to murder untold numbers, Communist Cuba has/continues to murder untold numbers, the list goes on.

The grand total is over 50 million dead in the last 80-year time span (over 600,000/year). Even comparing the worst time of "Christian Persecution" to an average time of a just one country that has officially and forcefully separated church and state, the conclusion is obvious: Christianity has a huge calming influence on government.

Atheists love to hark back to the dark days of Christian sectarian violence, but it is Christian Europe with its underpinnings of Judaic law that brought forth western civilization. The bad is infinitesimal compared to the good in western civilization. We had better resolve to defend it.

2banana

6 posted on 01/28/2008 9:29:52 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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ping for future.


7 posted on 01/28/2008 9:31:05 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: forkinsocket

God is an APPLIED mathematician.


8 posted on 01/28/2008 9:32:22 AM PST by Poincare (Hope is nostalgia for the future.)
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To: frogjerk

Yeah.

The greatest murderers in history... Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot... all were highly religious. /sarc. LOL!

They were atheists. Like 86% of mathematicians. Like the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Steven Weinberg. Like Margaret Sanger.


9 posted on 01/28/2008 9:32:56 AM PST by Seruzawa
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To: frogjerk

Just anti-religious bigotry.
I’m sure in the heart of the person that spake thus, he’s only referring to Christianity.

One tidbit for everyone - ever wonder why the Muslims didn’t advance ANY science of their own except for what they stole from conquered civilizations?

In Christianity, we believe that God is good and consistent. For example, we assume that He wouldn’t make the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter different in different cases.

Any such “chaining” of “Allah” would be viewed as a beheadable offense in Islam.


11 posted on 01/28/2008 9:33:24 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ArrogantBustard
One, two, five.

You left out three.

Sorry

12 posted on 01/28/2008 9:37:56 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Just how will wrecking the U.S. economy save the planet?)
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To: F15Eagle
Perhaps some of you mathematicians out there have additional comments on 153?

That it is alot of fish?

13 posted on 01/28/2008 9:39:45 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: F15Eagle
Perhaps some of you mathematicians out there have additional comments on 153?

It's the birthday of anyone born on May 3, year 1?

14 posted on 01/28/2008 9:45:24 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: 2banana

Nice Reply.
Do you have a source for your statistics?


17 posted on 01/28/2008 9:47:18 AM PST by caseyblane
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To: F15Eagle
...or January 5, of 3?

I went the other way 'cause my BD is on May 3!...felt a kind of kindred relationship, ya see...

18 posted on 01/28/2008 9:50:51 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: caseyblane
Nice Reply. Do you have a source for your statistics?

They are all over the net. This is a good source (and yes, I was very conservative with the numbers)

http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm

19 posted on 01/28/2008 9:58:06 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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20 posted on 01/28/2008 10:04:22 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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