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Peggy Noonan: Breaking Up Is Hard to Do
The Wall Street Journal ^ | January 25, 2008 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 01/25/2008 12:49:01 AM PST by Aristotelian

Declarations: The primary campaign is tearing the Democrats apart. President Bush already did that to the Republicans.

We begin, as one always must now, again, with Bill Clinton. The past week he has traveled South Carolina, leaving discord in his wake. Barack Obama, that "fairytale," is low, sneaky. "He put out a hit job on me." The press is cruelly carrying Mr. Obama's counter-jabs. "You live for it."

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As for the Republicans, their slow civil war continues. . . . The rage is due to many things. A world is ending, the old world of conservative meaning, and ascendancy. Loss leads to resentment. (See Clinton, Bill.)

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It will all come down to: Whom do Republicans believe? Mr. Romney in spite of his past and now-disavowed liberal positions? Or Mr. McCain in spite of his forays, the past 10 years, into a kind of establishment mindset that has suggested that The Establishment Knows Best?

Do conservatives take inspiration from Mr. Romney's newness? Or do they take comfort and security from Mr. McCain's rugged ability to endure, and to remind?

It is along those lines the big decision will be made.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: noonan
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Sadly, you're right.

Many of us thought we did in the 2000 election, but we were deceived and used.

More's the pity.....I belive all is lost, less God intervenes.

I pray for mercy, yet I fear it will be judgment.

161 posted on 01/25/2008 6:29:55 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: verklaring

Amen... brother!


162 posted on 01/25/2008 6:30:12 AM PST by Saint Athanasius ("I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: NCLaw441

Thanks for this terrific analogy and “measured response” of your own. I’m clearly in the camp of voting for the better of two ‘lessor’ choices, if for nothing more than SCOTUS appointments ...


163 posted on 01/25/2008 6:33:33 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Aristotelian

What does “anethmatize” mean? It’s not a word I’ve ever heard.


164 posted on 01/25/2008 6:34:29 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Aristotelian

Both father and son spent their Presidencies wasting hard-won, conservative, political capital! No more RINOs!


165 posted on 01/25/2008 6:36:27 AM PST by ushr435
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To: Aristotelian

Hey feller, you think this is a mess? Compare Bush to Ford or Nixon.

And guess what?? We could have had McCain, the worthless, lying sack of sh*t liberal instead.

As much of a disappointment as Bush has been, I’d take him for 8 more years over any for the flip flopping backstabbers running now (the ones left).

The GOP is in trouble alright, but kneepadders like Hannity, Noonan, Medved, National Review, the WSJ etc etc supporting liberals instead of conservatives are also at fault.


166 posted on 01/25/2008 6:37:18 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: verklaring

“Living in a blue state, I am inclined to say pass the popcorn while we watch the ship sink. Unfortunately I am on the ship.”

Leaves only one question.

Where do we place our deck chairs?


167 posted on 01/25/2008 6:41:59 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Aristotelian

You and Peggy need to back off Bush.

He has saved our country and always was totally honest about his stands on everything.

He was certainly a universe above what we would have gotten with Gore (the idiot) or Kerry (the french-looking idiot)

I resent the attitude around here that he is fair game to be an object of scorn.


168 posted on 01/25/2008 6:42:00 AM PST by altura
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Imagine 4 to 8 disastrous years of another Jimmy Carter...all because the nominee isn’t perfect in the eyes of some. We shouldn’t let that happen to America.

It is already a foregone conclusion. If you think the current candidates are capable of turning out the base, you've another think coming.

169 posted on 01/25/2008 6:46:43 AM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more. Keyes '08)
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To: Aristotelian

Who did you support eight years ago?


170 posted on 01/25/2008 6:57:49 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: DoughtyOne
Rush probably means the same thing.

Maybe so.

There are a lot of stupid people out there, too. Just look at the crowd at any Clinton rally.

Ignorance can be fixed through education, but stupid is permanent and can't be fixed no matter what you do.....sorta like "beauty may be skin deep, but ugly cuts to the bone"......

171 posted on 01/25/2008 6:57:57 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Aristotelian

Noonan writes “
“Do conservatives take inspiration from Mr. Romney’s newness? Or do they take comfort and security from Mr. McCain’s rugged ability to endure, and to remind?”

and,

“It is along those lines the big decision will be made.”

I think she may be on to something there.


172 posted on 01/25/2008 7:00:01 AM PST by austinaero
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To: Aristotelian

What split up the Reagan coalition was the collapse of the Soviet Union. When Roe is overturned you will see a further split. When we start allowing school prayer and Bible readings you will see a further split. I call that progress.


173 posted on 01/25/2008 7:02:41 AM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Aristotelian
Another non-conservative GOPer would be disastrous.

There isn't a non-conservative running for the GOP nomination.

The best we can do is to try and stop the pendulum from swinging all the way to the left.

174 posted on 01/25/2008 7:09:32 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Aristotelian; All
The Republican Party was a mirage.

1. A plurality of "Fiscal Conservatives", were nothing more than corporatists willing to follow whichever party would cut their taxes, provide subsidies, allow hirings of illegal aliens, reduce regulations, etc., etc, etc, to quote the King of Siam.

They are the military-industrial complex whom President Eisenhower warned about and Nikita Kruschev mocked. There is no allegiance to the Republican Party, only to the greenbacked dollar.

2. Then there is the Evangelicals as So-Cons myth. Those folks who show up with their list of demands and threats of sitting home on election day, if those demands are not met. The Dobsons, The Bauers, The Robertsons, etc,, etc, etc., to quote the good King again.

Again a plurality show their lack of conservative credentials by following the Pied Piper of Hope, blindly casting their votes for a socialist in conservative clothing.

3. The Law and Order or Defense volken. Seeking their piece of the pie without seeing the big picture. Probably the most dependable over all of the constituency, yet more easily frightened than a babe in the woods.

It's time for a realignment of the parts or to die.

175 posted on 01/25/2008 7:10:30 AM PST by britt reed (Any resemblance between what Mike Hucklebee says and the truth is purely coincidental.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Ah... I was not talking about that case at all. But since you brought it up, would this situation be better if there were two people GORE had appointed on the surpreme court? Heck we might lose the 2ndA entirely if that had been the case.


176 posted on 01/25/2008 7:10:43 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Aristotelian

Bush has left a mess....a disjointed fractured party and an abandoned base.

If he had not had 9-11 to pivot off of he’d be even less regarded.

He has been a poor lightship for the right.


177 posted on 01/25/2008 7:13:00 AM PST by wardaddy (Political Correctness is to Western Culture what the Aids virus is to the cake community)
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To: Aristotelian
I voted for Forbes in my first ever Presidential Primary ('96) and then Harry Browne in the general election.

In 2000, I was in Florida (which had a late primary that year), and Forbes had already dropped out by that time. Would have supported him nonetheless had he remained in.

178 posted on 01/25/2008 7:15:42 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: sodpoodle

bookmark


179 posted on 01/25/2008 7:16:22 AM PST by sodpoodle (Ike - overlooked & underrated - golfing over a golden age.)
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To: britt reed
Law and order types give me the creeps.

Nothing wrong with reduced taxes and regulations. I have a BIG problem with subsidies and will not accept a laissez fair immigration policy without a repeal of the welfare state (including Publik Skools).

As far as those high on the Jesus Juice are concerned (the preachers and their acolytes), my main problem is that they act as though they are a majority, and that the "majority rules." They are wrong on both points.

180 posted on 01/25/2008 7:19:35 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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