Posted on 01/23/2008 1:05:47 PM PST by gbscott1954
I was sitting here thinking something that I have thought before several times in recent months. The Republican Party began as a third party championing the cause of abolition and westward expansion. Just was wondering some of your thoughts about if it is time to begin thinking about a new true conservative party dedicated to true conservative principles?
The Ron Paul Party should be called
“The Isolationist Cindy Sheehan loving Antiwar Legalize-it Pothead Party.”
Strippers always have that effect on me.
We really need 4 viable parties, not 3, each with about 25% market share. Split both the Democrats and Republicans in half. The biggest reason is because new market research technologies are giving us Coke vs. Pepsi elections. Because of accurate survey techniques and using focus groups, no one says what they really believe, just what the researchers tell them they need to say to get elected. We are routinely seeing 50/50 elections now and it’s a random coin toss who wins. By having 4 parties candidates could go back to standing for what they believe, and still winning an election on occasion.
>>We really need 4 viable parties, not 3, each with about 25% market share. Split both the Democrats and Republicans in half. The biggest reason is because new market research technologies are giving us Coke vs. Pepsi elections. Because of accurate survey techniques and using focus groups, no one says what they really believe, just what the researchers tell them they need to say to get elected. We are routinely seeing 50/50 elections now and it’s a random coin toss who wins. By having 4 parties candidates could go back to standing for what they believe, and still winning an election on occasion.<<
The problem is the one that splits first usually loses.
There is a conservative segment within the republican party that the republican party attempts to reach. Many remain republicans, but vote elsewhere because the GOP does not offer enough incentive to vote within the party.
At this point, I'd be happy with 40%. Though that is still allowing the party to drift further to the Left.
Oh, CRAP. Did I type "Interia" OUT LOUD ?!?!??!
Let’s revive the Whig Party. Pretend we are back in the 1840s
Agree. If we lose the party, if we lose sight of having some say ... we will definetly have nothing. And nothing to build on.
Berlin_Freeper and Slapshot68,
You’re both right: it would be far easier with how institutionalized the 2 parties are now just to take back the Republican Party. And, the way to do that is to form an advocacy group/party that promotes the three legs of the conservative Reagan coalition.
The ‘08 primaries have made it clear how conservative a platform candidates feel they have to run on, and how easily deceptively moderate candidates can adopt a conservative platform and be deceptively promoted by the mainstream media.
There should be a ‘conservative balance party’ formed to raise money within the current crazy campaign financing constraints and then fund the promotion of, getting the message out on, and consolidating around conservative coalition candidates early enough in the process.
The party should be organized to solicit, promote and then endorse candidates from the congressional level on up, starting in ‘10. Is there any way for the state-by-state Free Republic chapter structure to help get this off the ground more locally? Is CPAC or some other organization structured to encompass this?
Those were REAL conservatives then, them Whigs.
Well said. The third party idea only festers in the party that is changing. Democrats seem to have resolved their differences with the Green Party [Nader]. The GOP elephant has morphed into a RINO party with old conservatism replaced by new conservatism, featuring big government and pro-abortion positions.
Realistic issues that I can compromise on.
I not really comfortable giving in anywhere, but I was hoping maybe you could convince me.
Can you?
I think I went to school with her.
There’s a similar desire on the left to break apart the Democrats. It would take a leader to get laws passed that would cause the simultaneous break up of both parties. It could be done, as most countries have more than 2 viable parties. But those in Washington DC aren’t going to help this happen.
What would this Great Revitaliser look like in your opinion?
agreed
Sadly, the problem is not the political parties, in my opinion, but the people. The people have become detached from the intentions of the Founders as reflected in the Constitution and its history. Widespread ignorance of both the Constitution and how the government is supposed to work is evidenced by the following links.
http://tinyurl.com/npt6tThe consequence of this widespread ignorance is that the federal government is walking all over our freedoms.
http://tinyurl.com/hehr8
In fact, FDR is the one who let the federal gorilla out of its cage. This is because FDR butchered the 10th A. protected powers of the states in order to establish his New Deal programs. The following two posts, if you have not already seen them, attempt to explain the consequences of FDR's ignoring of the 10th A. as exemplified by unauthorized federal spending and the unconstitutional limiting of our religious freedoms, including the USSC's scandalous legalization of abortion.
Unconstitutional federal government spendingThe bottom line is that the people need to reconnect with the intentions of the Founders as reflected by the Constitution. The people need to quit sitting on their hands and petition lawmakers, judges and justices who are not upholding their oaths to defend the Constitution, particularly the ignoring of the 10th A., demanding that they resign from their jobs.
Unconstitutional limiting of our religious freedoms (long)
The people need to put the federal gorilla back in its cage.
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