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To: Mr. Silverback

Caroline unfortunately is a minority. I truly believe that most of these women dread the inconvenience and annoyance of an abortion but frankly see little wrong with it.

You’re dealing with savages, heathens, humans that are best described as nihilist and hedonistic for the most part. It’s a byproduct of poor education, a lack of respect for self and others, a void created by a secularist society where people live in anonymity and without consequence of poor behavior. Abortion is a byproduct of social decay and liberalization to the point where there are no rules except those that make the “mob” feel good (Pure hedonism). Whether it’s most homosexuals or a feminist, essentially their life revolves around their sex organs, and for the feminist abortion means sexual reproductive freedom as well as a higher degree of independence socially and economically. Everything else is superfluous, since after all, you’re dealing with a hedonist.


9 posted on 01/22/2008 12:18:34 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Red6

I think your description is accurate.... for you and me and about everyone. That is why we need a Savior to stand in our place. God chose to Love and save us when we were all those things you described, not after we got saved and straightened our lives up.


15 posted on 01/22/2008 12:42:27 PM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Red6

Caroline unfortunately is a minority. I truly believe that most of these women dread the inconvenience and annoyance of an abortion but frankly see little wrong with it.

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I think as women age they do see the folly in those “choices”. But I believe abortion will not change until people value human life, and value the fact that we are created in God’s image, not the product of “cosmic accidents”. That point of view devalues who we are.


16 posted on 01/22/2008 12:44:30 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Red6

I have researched this extensively and the research shows that approximately 50% of the women who receive abortions suffer a type of post traumatic stress syndrome an average of 5 years after the procedure. I have spent many years as a volunteer in an abortion alternatives ministry of the Catholic Church. Almost all of the young women I counseled had been forced into an abortion decision by their parents. I don’t believe that Caroline is in minority based on my experience and research. Additionally, the Catholic Church has a very successful ministry in assisting women who have had abortions seek reconciliation. Project Rachael is at capacity every time it is offered here.


23 posted on 01/22/2008 1:13:57 PM PST by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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To: Red6

Though you are right about the hedonistic nature of the culture, I think you’re way off on the regret aspect. Few if any women kill their child without major emotional reprecussions. You could see that just by watching the Silent No More contingent at the March for Life this year.


36 posted on 01/22/2008 3:20:26 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Red6

yeah, but even most hedonists have a trailing conscience. Beyond the lies of their thoughts they know deep down what a horrible thing abortion is.


70 posted on 01/22/2008 10:09:33 PM PST by fabian
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To: Red6

I believe those who most vehemently support abortion and do everything in their power to justify it are the ones that are hurting the most.

They know it was wrong, but just can’t face up to the horror of what they’ve done,

so they spend the rest of their lives justifying it.

I know at least two women that I’ve met that fall into this category. Others have described arguments that they’ve gotten into with people they’ve met - pretty much the same story out of every one. Just like an addict or alcoholic - the stories are always the same.


87 posted on 01/23/2008 2:14:26 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Red6
You are an idiot. Most women who have abortions are not nihilist or hedonistic. They are women who find themselves faced with a terrible situation that they never expected to be in. The often agonize over the decision. It is not uncommon for them to be young, scared, confused and easily swayed by the "reproductive health counselor" at their local PPH. They are told it is the best option, they will feel no pain and after the procedure everything in their life will be back to normal and they will never think about it again. Only after the fact do they realize that the pain is only beginning and they will live with the guilt and loss the rest of their lives. Even having children at a later date never ameliorates the pain and guilt.
90 posted on 01/23/2008 2:24:09 PM PST by redangus
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