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Should He Stay or Should He Go? (Fred)
The Corner at National Review ^ | January 20, 2008 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 01/20/2008 6:57:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

An e-mail:

I see that some people (Adler, Geraghty) are calling for Fred to stay in the race. The practical consequence of Thompson's presence so far has been to hand South Carolina to McCain. It's seems unlikely that this dynamic will change in other southern states. All Thompson is managing to do is to split the conservative vote and clear the way for McCain.

Adler also makes the improbable claim that Romney has been revealed as a very weak candidate, even though the information is right there on The Corner that Romney has garnered more votes so far than anyone else in the race.

Lastly, Romney gets slammed for spending money. He is the only candidate running who is attempting to win or place in every state. Giuliani, who also has spent quite a lot, has abandoned most of the country. Fred made a minimal effort outside SC. I half expect a plea for campaign finance reform to follow some of these complaints that Romney is spending too much money. It's very strange.

UPDATE: Another:

Fred is "splitting" the conservative vote with Huckabee. Don't ask me why a conservative would vote for Huckabee, but without Fred, Huckabee would have won S.C. big. If all of Fred's votes had gone to Romney, he still would have been third. Fred should stay in. I'd rather see a brokered convention than Huckabee or McCain as the nominee before then.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: conservatism; conservatives; election; electionpresident; elections; evangelicals; fred; fredthompson; gop; huckabee; johnmccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; republicans; sc2008; thompson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Politicalmom; fieldmarshaldj

“Fred needs to stay in and see how this mess plays out.”

Very true.


81 posted on 01/20/2008 7:48:19 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: outofstyle
As distasteful as it may be, it is time to choose among those with a real shot, McCain, Romney & possibly Rudy.

Against Hillary or Obama, I will vote for any GOP nominee, unless it's Huckleberry or Paul, in which case I'll stay home.

82 posted on 01/20/2008 7:49:25 PM PST by squidly
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To: squidly
You are correct. A Fred departure gives a big boost to Huckleberry.

And Huckleberry's certain eventual departure will give a big boost to Fred. Huckleberry hasn't expanded on his base, and CAN'T. Not only that, the Huckster hasn't too much money. Even more, except for his core followers, he scares the besnoopies out of folks.

McCain will start doing less well too, as we move into states with closed primaries. McCain gets a lot of his support from crossover plinkers. If Fred stays in, runs an economic, targeted, campaign, he'll see his numbers improve. He is almost everyone's fallback.

83 posted on 01/20/2008 7:49:34 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

I am NOT impressed with primaries that allow the opposition to vote in your election. Sad day when so many states give up their own elections to independents and dems.


84 posted on 01/20/2008 7:50:01 PM PST by tioga
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To: B4Ranch

I sometimes wonder what’s going on behind the scenes with McCain.

He’s a POW who conceals records on POW/MIAs. A “republican” senator who works as hard as he can to advance leftist causes.

Spent many years with the enemy in “captivity.”


85 posted on 01/20/2008 7:50:43 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fred? Fred Who? Was there a contender in there named Fred? If you are talking about that Law and Order Fred, IMHO he should have stayed with Law and Order because he only enabled Lib McCain.....


86 posted on 01/20/2008 7:51:19 PM PST by ErieGeno
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

he should stay in... othewise i have no one for whom to vote!


87 posted on 01/20/2008 7:53:42 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He needs to stay in the race!


88 posted on 01/20/2008 7:54:10 PM PST by sweet_diane (Love Everybody)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

< < Fred IMO should stay in race after Super Tuesday. With the possiblity of this being a brokered convention no candidate should even think of dropping out > >

Fred should stay in the race until I sing.

well, until I sing in key.


89 posted on 01/20/2008 7:54:21 PM PST by womanvet (There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fred should stay the course.


90 posted on 01/20/2008 7:54:43 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: ErieGeno
....because he only enabled Lib McCain.....

You are speaking WAAAAAY too soon. McCain isn't going to continue to do well in states with closed primaries.

91 posted on 01/20/2008 7:58:12 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fred is "splitting" the conservative vote with Huckabee. Don't ask me why a conservative would vote for Huckabee, but without Fred, Huckabee would have won S.C. big.

You could say just the opposite, couldn't you? If Huckabee hadn't been in the race, all his votes might have gone to Fred. Makes as much sense, doesn't it?

92 posted on 01/20/2008 7:58:54 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Soliton

Fred isn’t out until he says he is out. So far, he has not said it and I don’t think he would because he is going on to Super Tuesday as far as I know. Enjoy the debate this Thursday! Know I will! Will also enjoy voting for Fred on January 29th! GO FRED!


93 posted on 01/20/2008 7:58:57 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: ErieGeno
Fred? Fred Who? Was there a contender in there named Fred? If you are talking about that Law and Order Fred, IMHO he should have stayed with Law and Order because he only enabled Lib McCain.....

IMHO your HO ain't worth a pile of camel dung. Fred is the best hope for America and his entering the race was the best thing that could have happend to the pubbie prez race. He still has a shot at saving this country from the ongoing push to the left and as long as there is any hope of that AT ALL he should stay in.

Go Fred Go!

94 posted on 01/20/2008 7:59:31 PM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: John Valentine
McCain isn't going to continue to do well in states with closed primaries.

It is interesting to take note of who has done best among Republicans in the primaries and caucuses thus far.

95 posted on 01/20/2008 8:00:30 PM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Romney supporters telling Fred to drop out.

Here’s me: Romney, drop out. Let the real deal get the nomination.


96 posted on 01/20/2008 8:03:27 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: reasonisfaith
At this point it’s good to know I can plan on voting for Fred when he runs against Hillary or Obama.

If "reason is faith," then it works, I suppose.

97 posted on 01/20/2008 8:03:39 PM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: outofstyle

Do you want to get into an argument you will never win?


98 posted on 01/20/2008 8:05:07 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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To: Theo
Here’s me: Romney, drop out. Let the real deal McCain get the nomination.
99 posted on 01/20/2008 8:06:12 PM PST by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: outofstyle

One word: McCain/Feingold.

OK, that’s two words.


100 posted on 01/20/2008 8:07:35 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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