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Where does a Conservative go?(Vanity)
My feckless brain ^ | Me

Posted on 01/20/2008 1:18:25 AM PST by TexasMatty

As a Conservative I am lost. I will not, under any circumstances vote for John Mclame. He has sold Conservatives out. Nor will I vote for Jesus' favorite candidate Schmuckabee. I believe the most Conservative candidate is Thompson and can't help but wonder who is voting in these things. If Mclame or Schmuckabee is the nominee I can't vote. It will pain me deeply to not vote, but either of those clowns are no different from the lefty. Me question to my FRiends is.. WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO??? The situation seems rather desperate.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: desperate; desperatehousecons; desperation; sc2008; voteforpaul
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To: TexasMatty

Any substantive criticism besides insults?

Look, I have disagreements with Paul too, but a lot fewer than with the likes of McCain, Huck or Romney.


141 posted on 01/20/2008 5:09:45 AM PST by ovrtaxt (In my fantasy world, the Dems run a Zell Miller/ Lieberman ticket...)
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To: gridlock

I guess that I am with you.

I’ll follow the lead of Rush, Ann, etc. and grudgingly support Romney.

But that is my line in the sand...I will go no further.

Last summer, we got a taste of McCain’s contempt for Conservatives when his #1 Altar Boy (yeah, I mean it like THAT!) told all of us “Loud People” to “shut up”. I don’t plan to put up with that for four years.

To get our Party back, we have got to get MAD!

There is nothing wrong with the Republican Party that a few good ol’ fashioned tar an’ featherin’s won’t fix.


142 posted on 01/20/2008 5:09:46 AM PST by PalmettoMason (Ted Kennedy is "one of the most principled men I've ever met." Lindsay Graham)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I’ve got to agree that Mitt’s better than Huckabee and probably McCain, but he’s worrisome indeed.

A natural ‘let me (big government) fix-it for you’ technocrat who wants to please (those who succeed in pandering politically do so because it is consistent with their personality), which is the type most guaranteed to be corrupted by the liberal Washington culture. Already he was corrupted by the liberal Massachusetts culture!

He’ll do to health care what Bush did to education, and probably like Bush he’ll try to please by upping mandates and spending and tax cuts all together—until he’ll be forced by the Democrat Congress to forego the tax cuts. You’ve already seen his approach to judicial appointments in MA, and there’s no reason to expect he’d be less accommodating on the federal level.

It’s a sorry day indeed.


143 posted on 01/20/2008 5:10:12 AM PST by 9YearLurker (Fred just keeps looking better and better)
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To: Jim Noble
The "nominate my guy or I'll shoot this dog" strategy has gotten you nowhere, and is p*ssing all the other Republicans off.

We've heard the same thing in every election cycle since I joined FR. Doom and gloom, woe is us, to hell with the country if it doesn't agree with us. It's tediously familiar.

144 posted on 01/20/2008 5:10:27 AM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

—————Once Huckabee and Thomson drop out, conservatives will go to the Romney camp to keep McCain out of the White House.-—————

And what if that doesn’t happen? What if Thompson or Huck stay in the race? Are we doomed with a dual liberal ticket in november ala McCain and whoever the D chooses?


145 posted on 01/20/2008 5:10:53 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (If McCain wins the nom, I'm voting democrat. Well! There's two liberals on my november ballot.....)
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To: Oklahoma
Ok, the WOT can be won by the Florida National guard, to be blunt about it.

The true, real, and immediate threats are the enemies within who will fail to secure our borders and bring in 30+ new illegals and empower them to marginalize us forever with the vote.

That is checkmate. Game over.
Raghead nutjobs with blood in their eyes will not destroy America.

Even Obama himself could not force us to accept 30 million illegals as voters.

and that is the real danger.

146 posted on 01/20/2008 5:11:41 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: rman04554

Why would you want to vote for a Liberal?


147 posted on 01/20/2008 5:12:03 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Timeout

I know, I feel the same way. But what about economic threats to national security? China and Saudi Arabia have us over a barrell anyway, and it’s just as legitimate a threat as Iran. I’ll take the small government guy over a Rino without even thinking about it.


148 posted on 01/20/2008 5:12:06 AM PST by ovrtaxt (In my fantasy world, the Dems run a Zell Miller/ Lieberman ticket...)
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To: Timeout
So. I will put my disappointment behind me. I will vote for ANY Republican before allowing the peaceniks back in the Oval Office. Once I realized that I felt better.
Thank you for injecting a bit of rationality into this discussion. I am as disappointed as anyone here, and I still think Fred should stay in the race to be a voice at the convention.

As for national defense -- which MUST be considered the NUMBER ONE job of the president -- only two candidates on the R side are doubtful: Paul and Huckabee. Paul because he is a self-proclaimed defeatist and Huckabee because he's so abysmally stupid that there's really no telling what he's going to do. But thankfully, neither of them are going to get the nomination.

As for all the others, as bad as they are on so many other issues, they are all a million times better than any of the RATS on the issue of National Defense.

Be careful, all you who say you'll stay home next November if McCain or Romney or Giuliani is the nominee. You won't just be casting your vote for Obama or Hillary. You'll also be casting it (indirectly) for Osama, Putin and the Communist Chinese.

149 posted on 01/20/2008 5:12:09 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Def Conservative

The day to sit out wouldn’t be the 7th. Now’s your time to be heard.

If they don’t listen, the time to sit out would be the 2nd. November.


150 posted on 01/20/2008 5:12:23 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (If McCain wins the nom, I'm voting democrat. Well! There's two liberals on my november ballot.....)
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To: bill1952
“Romney can not beat anyone the Dems run.”

They will eat him like a waffle with jam and a side of willful toast.

151 posted on 01/20/2008 5:12:44 AM PST by Earthdweller
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To: Def Conservative

Amen. :0)


152 posted on 01/20/2008 5:13:48 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: Candor7
And they held Fred in very long strategy talks which made Fred slow to enter the race.
What are you talking about? Fred said back then -- and I supported him in his contention -- that he was on his "own timetable".

Fred turned out to be wrong about that. Accept it.

If Fred had played the game the way everybody else did -- on the new accelerated timetable -- I bet we would have seen a much different result in SC yesterday.

As much as I support Fred -- and I do, and I continue to -- I see it as a major strategy mistake in his campaign.

153 posted on 01/20/2008 5:15:37 AM PST by samtheman
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To: zerosix
“That or you never, ever heard of him, thanks to all of MSM, who feared him most of all, as they know how flawed others are, that many will choose to sit out the ‘08 election rather than choose any who insult our intelligence with their sell-outs to liberal causes, so they left Hunter largely unnoticed, except for when they thought he was withdrawing and rushed to his last “news” conference and stomped off in a huff when he didn’t.”

Congratulations! You’ve won today’s “longest rambling single sentence” award.

154 posted on 01/20/2008 5:17:22 AM PST by toddlintown (Build More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: Earthdweller

I think that’s true, in which case our best hope will be a 2010 Republican retaking of Congress with renewed conservative vigor, just like in 1994.

But then we’ll have to hope that we somehow learned our lesson and not run Bob Dole III (counting McCain ‘08 as Dole II). Either way, it doesn’t look good for Supreme Court appointments, though at least the first to go will be Stevens and Ginsburg, so there won’t be much immediate backsliding.


155 posted on 01/20/2008 5:17:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker (Fred just keeps looking better and better)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
They made it extremely clear that they don’t want to be a part of the political process, so let them do just that. Stay out of the political process!

I'm a registered independent.

There's no reason for me to stay out of the political process which is destroying my country.

156 posted on 01/20/2008 5:17:33 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; All
Reading over this and similar threads, it seems like the candidate that conservatives need to rally behind is Mitt Romney. Romney is okay with Rush and he should be okay with the rest of us. Oh, and get over any religious fixations. If need be I will try to find a FUnnie Steven Wright comedy routine on that subject that puts that into proper perspective.

To paraphrase a Marine Colonel in Vietnam to all you folks torn by the duality of man and into that Jungian thing:

Then how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?

157 posted on 01/20/2008 5:17:37 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: CowboyJay

Romney or McCain? If someone put the gun to your head and you absolutely had to choose.


158 posted on 01/20/2008 5:17:53 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (If McCain wins the nom, I'm voting democrat. Well! There's two liberals on my november ballot.....)
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To: TexasMatty
Vote for whomever will nominate the most conservative federal judges and an Attorney General who believes in the NRA's interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.

Now where does that leave you in a general election, when neither candidate fills the bill? Well in that case, it seems that logic says that you vote for the lessor of evils!

Yes, the nomination process is important and a few votes can make the difference -- don't be a fair weather voter.

159 posted on 01/20/2008 5:20:25 AM PST by RAY (God Bless the USA!)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
you are a nut.

Romney cannot run away from his record, and that record is very close to Hillary’s platform itself, from gay marriage - great job in managment there - to forced health care for all.

Hell, they are too close to slip a piece of paper between, and the conservative base will fracture between those who will hold their noses and vote for him, and those who will not.

All of your posts are wide of that reality.

Hillary will even take Mitt’s own state, along with another 30 - 34.

160 posted on 01/20/2008 5:20:41 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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