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To: locke22

Why are both the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party so “open borders” when it comes to the illegal immigration issue? This is only one of the many issues that truly prevents a majority of conservatives from ever joining, supporting, and/or voting for either the Libertarian Party or the Constitution Party at any political level.


50 posted on 01/16/2008 3:53:43 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

I am not sure where you are getting your information but the CP is anything but open borders. I questioned Ms. Starrett about that also during the interview. Find below the seven tenents of their party.

Seven Principles of the Constitution Party are:

1. Life: For all human beings, from conception to natural death;
2. Liberty: Freedom of conscience and actions for the self-governed individual;
3. Family: One husband and one wife with their children as divinely instituted;
4. Property: Each individual’s right to own and steward personal property without government burden;
5. Constitution: and Bill of Rights interpreted according to the actual intent of the Founding Fathers;
6. States’ Rights: Everything not specifically delegated by the Constitution to the federal government is reserved for the state and local jurisdictions;
7. American Sovereignty: American government committed to the protection of the borders, trade, and common defense of Americans, and not entangled in foreign alliances.


52 posted on 01/16/2008 4:20:43 PM PST by locke22
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
Why are both the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party so “open borders” when it comes to the illegal immigration issue? This is only one of the many issues that truly prevents a majority of conservatives from ever joining, supporting, and/or voting for either the Libertarian Party or the Constitution Party at any political level.Why are both the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party so “open borders” when it comes to the illegal immigration issue? This is only one of the many issues that truly prevents a majority of conservatives from ever joining, supporting, and/or voting for either the Libertarian Party or the Constitution Party at any political level.

Say what? Read the Constitution Party Platform. Here is what they say on Immigration. Can the GOP do better than this?

Immigration

We affirm the integrity of the international borders of the United States and the Constitutional authority and duty of the federal government to guard and to protect those borders, including the regulation of the numbers and of the qualifications of immigrants into the country.

Each year approximately one million legal immigrants and almost as many illegal aliens enter the United States. These immigrants - including illegal aliens - have been made eligible for various kinds of public assistance, including housing, education, Social Security, and legal services. This unconstitutional drain on the federal Treasury is having a severe and adverse impact on our economy, increasing the cost of government at federal, state, and local levels, adding to the tax burden, and stressing the fabric of society. The mass importation of people with low standards of living threatens the wage structure of the American worker and the labor balance in our country.

We oppose the abuse of the H-1B and L-1 visa provisions of the immigration act which are displacing American workers with foreign.

We favor a moratorium on immigration to the United States, except in extreme hardship cases or in other individual special circumstances, until the availability of all federal subsidies and assistance be discontinued, and proper security procedures have been instituted to protect against terrorist infiltration.

We also insist that every individual group and/or private agency which requests the admission of an immigrant to the U.S., on whatever basis, be required to commit legally to provide housing and sustenance for such immigrants, bear full responsibility for the economic independence of the immigrants, and post appropriate bonds to seal such covenants.

The Constitution Party demands that the federal government restore immigration policies based on the practice that potential immigrants will be disqualified from admission to the U.S. if, on the grounds of health, criminality, morals, or financial dependence, they would impose an improper burden on the United States, any state, or any citizen of the United States.

We oppose the provision of welfare subsidies and other taxpayer-supported benefits to illegal aliens, and reject the practice of bestowing U.S. citizenship on children born to illegal alien parents while in this country.

We oppose any extension of amnesty to illegal aliens. We call for the use of U.S. troops to protect the states against invasion.

We oppose bilingual ballots. We insist that those who wish to take part in the electoral process and governance of this nation be required to read and comprehend basic English as a precondition of citizenship. We support English as the official language for all governmental business by the United States.

68 posted on 01/16/2008 8:12:44 PM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
>> Why are both the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party so “open borders” when it comes to the illegal immigration issue? <<

The CP is very hard-core anti-illegal immigration. It is the Libertarian Party that always pushed for open borders and "free movement of peoples"

The question is why didn't Ron Paul renounce the LP's position on immigration when he was the party's nominee in 1988, if he's as staunchly pro-border security as he claims?

73 posted on 01/16/2008 10:46:03 PM PST by BillyBoy (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Ronald Reagan, he's the second coming of Stephen Douglas!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

I don’t belong to either one of the parties. But as expressed already on this thread...the LP is more open borders, but the CP is anything but. Look at Romney, Huck, Rudy and god help us “come on in” McCain and you are sitting pretty crooked on your high horse. I would ask you who is more open border....the current Rep party or the CP.


120 posted on 01/17/2008 2:08:38 PM PST by locke22
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