Posted on 01/12/2008 8:40:25 AM PST by walkerk
Prosecutors from across the country, afraid that an upcoming U.S. Supreme Court ruling could erode state gun laws, on Friday asked the high court to uphold a ban on unlicensed handguns.
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The prosecutors, led by district attorneys Robert M. Morgenthau of New York County and Kamala D. Harris of San Francisco, say they worry that what applies in Washington might have an impact on their communities.
Assistant District Attorney Mark Dwyer, head of Morgenthau's appeals bureau, said the high court's review of the Second Amendment will be its first since 1939.
"We would like for the court to reverse the D.C. circuit," Dwyer said, "for them to say there is no individual right to possess a gun, that it (the Second Amendment) enables states to arm militias."
"We hope they don't say anyone can have a gun anytime he wants," Dwyer said.
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The district attorneys, who represent a total of more than 25 million people, come from jurisdictions that include New York, San Francisco, Boston, Dallas, Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit, San Diego, Oakland and Atlanta.
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Your logic completely escapes me. Military personnel are virtually owned by the federal government for the duration of their service. They don’t even have the same Constitutional rights as other residents of the USA, but live by the Uniform Code of Military Justice, as I understand it.
The free People of DC are entitled to ALL of the US Constitution’s protections. All of them. The Right of the People does not surround the District of Columbia, it included them. How could this be otherwise? You are baffling me.
“Clue to clueless DAs: This is not a popularity contest, it’s about what the US Constitution says. If you don’t like it, try moving to the UK or Australia, and deal with the increased crime rates.”
This brings to light how these traitors think. I don’t believe for one minute that they are really concerned about the citizenry of this country.
The usual suspects. I wonder if vote fraud causes DA's to get goofy about guns. There seems to be a clear correlation.
Wake Up America!
I agree with you 100% I was just predicting what they may rule. I can see them saying that since DC is Federal Property it falls under different rules. It would not be fair, but I can see them doing something assinine like that.
Another segment of the criminal-industrial complex (the standing army our founders feared) chimes in on the side of tyranny.
A lot of government agents who have violated their oath of office, and therefore, should lose their job (if not be tarred and feathered).
Since when did the Constitution matter to liberals, trial lawyers, Dimocrats, and the Bush administration??? Jorge's administration is behind it, as are the states. That means that we have a huge up hill battle to keep our right to own, possess and carry our guns. If the Dims get the White House and hold on to Congress, Hillary or Obama will probably get to appoint two or three hugely slime ball liberals to the US Supremes in the next few years, and you will see our freedoms fly out the window as fast as they can pass anti freedom laws. Guns, shutting up Rush, shutting up conservative radio and TV like semi conservative Fox News, and shutting down conservative Internet, will be on their agendas. Total power, total control. That is what they seek. If we lose this, the will come after our guns. FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND. And this is a freedom I am willing to die defending.
I could see the desire on the part of some of the supremes to do this, but others will want to actually uphold the clear intent of the 2nd Amendment over all jurisdictions throughout the US.
Sadly citizens who are not criminals count for zip in this country as far as the whores on the bench are concerned.
Your absolutely correct observation prompts me to repost this:
An astute student of history and human nature, one Thomas Jefferson, predicted all this after witnessing the run up to the FIRST socialist/communist revolution in France while ambassador there. He penned the following observations concerning what would happen HERE should that socialism come to the United States. He CORRECTLY predicted that we would become an increasingly contentious and litigious people as we shouldered one another out of the way to get OURS from the public trough and the trough would soon be empty.
He also knew where the bulk of the problem would originate.
That whirring noise you may hear coming from that mountain in Charlottesville, Virginia is Mr. Jefferson getting up to around 3600 RPM.
“The mobs of the great cities add just so much to the support of pure government as sores do to the strength of the human body. It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution.” —Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIX, 1782. ME 2:230
I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe.” —Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. Papers 12:442
“I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.” —Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 1800. ME 10:173
“Our cities... exhibit specimens of London only; our country is a different nation.” —Thomas Jefferson to Andre de Daschkoff, 1809. ME 12:304
“Everyone, by his property or by his satisfactory situation, is interested in the support of law and order. And such men may safely and advantageously reserve to themselves a wholesome control over their public affairs and a degree of freedom which, in the hands of the canaille of the cities of Europe, would be instantly perverted to the demolition and destruction of everything public and private.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:401
“An insurrection... of science, talents, and courage, against rank and birth... has failed in its first effort, because the mobs of the cities, the instrument used for its accomplishment, debased by ignorance, poverty, and vice, could not be restrained to rational action. But the world will recover from the panic of this first catastrophe.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813. ME 13:402
“I fear nothing for our liberty from the assaults of force; but I have seen and felt much, and fear more from English books, English prejudices, English manners, and the apes, the dupes, and designs among our professional crafts. When I look around me for security against these seductions, I find it in the wide spread of our agricultural citizens, in their unsophisticated minds, their independence and their power, if called on, to crush the Humists of our cities, and to maintain the principles which severed us from England.” —Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:120
What a find...excellent!
Spoken like a truly ignorant fascist pig.
Looks like this country needs to get rid of a lot of District Attorneys.
Do they have to swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States when they’re sworn into office? Just asking.
And we hope you and people like you get run over by a bus.
DA's don't represent anyone, but the slimy big city pols who appoint them. In most cases they don't even appoint them directly, but rather they hire a city manager who hires the DA.
DC is not Federal Property, not all of it anyway. Most of it is private property, and is no different than anywhere else except Congress, rather than a state or city government, has exclusive legislative authority. That doesn't mean they can pass any law they wish, just that only they can pass laws for the District.
A military base, OTOH, is government property, and the government can restrict who goes there, and the conditions under which they do so, similar to other property owners, with the "National Security" twist thrown in to complicate matters a bit.
It's a funtion not listed in the Constitution, except perhaps by implication. There are several other classes of cases listed where the Supreme Court has original or appellate jurisdiction.
Section. 2. The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; — to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; — to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; — to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party; — to Controversies between two or more States; — between a State and Citizens of another State [Modified by Amendment XI]; — between Citizens of different States; — between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.
Over the recent years I have lost more and more respect of local prosecutors. They are in one of the most vulnerable positions for corruption and abuse of power and I see more and more of them viciously prosecuting individuals who are powerless to fight back, some even being killed by overly agressive tactics of law enforcement in the furtherance of corrupt government agendas, even involving private property being siezed for public agencies.
I remember a CA prosecutor who did nothing to stop the ill advised raid on a Mr. Scott over near Ventura County, not too far from that liberal singer Barbara Striesand and he ended up being shot to death in his own home in Ventura County by an LA County Sheriff's Deputy. It is strongly suspected he was set up because he wouldn't play ball with the Santa Monica Mountains CONservancy in becoming a "willing seller" of his prized property to these GovernMental EnvironMental whackos!!!
The CA prosecutor who did nothing and wouldn't even investigate this miscarrage of justice as CA AG, subsequently ran against Gray Davis for Governor as an arch CONservative and lost, bigtime!!! Now he's a US CONgressman from the Sacramento area.
There was an article in a major CA magazine a few years about "The Greening Of The Prosecutor's Lobby." I watched in horror as US Attorney's and CalEPA Bureaucrats worked furiously to recruit CA DA's into an "EnvironMental Crimes Enforcement Task Force in 1995, 1996 and 1997 here in the rural sierran counties. They promised these DA's resources and headlines as heros for busting small businesses/employers for outrageously over-blown "crimes" against nature deliberately designed for nothing but garnering extra funds and self-agrandizement. It was obscene!!!
This is another reason I simply cannot support Rudy Giuliani or any other prosecutor anymore as they are given far too much latitude in whether to prosecute, or not, and it gives them god-like power over their fellow man and they cannot resist the infatuation that power gives them. It's becoming as bad a situation as judges creating law from the bench, a task not given them by either the federal or state constitutions they all swear to uphold and defend!!!
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