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If there's no FRed and no Hunter and we're left with the four headless RINOs, then what?
January 10, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/10/2008 3:40:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson

The question was posed to me last night, if the only two conservatives in the race were to drop out, leaving the hapless RINOs Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee and McCain to ward off the Evil Witch of the East then, Jim, what do we do?

Well, I think four issues that most of us conservatives will agree on that are at the top or near the top of our priority lists are National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life should be considered. We can argue all day long on whether or not these guys are constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives, and I don't believe any of them are, but we'll leave that for another day. Let's concentrate on National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life.

Well, I can see right off that that rules out Rudy, the draft dodging, gun grabbing, sanctuary city abortionist. At least the other three claim to be pro-life, although Romney has been a pro-choice abortionist for all of his elected history until he decided to run for president. I think Romney's pro choice, big government nanny state (RomneyCare) record gives him two big black eyes and should knock him out of any further consideration. That leaves Huckabee and McCain.

Now, all four of these guys are terrible on border security even though they're all claiming now to be border hawks. McCain led the charge for amnesty and the rest fell in line like dutiful RINO troopers. Can't really make a distinction among these guys on the border issue. All fail, though I think most conservatives would rank McCain at or near the bottom.

Guns. Rudy's definitely out. McCain's out. Romney's not much better. Guess Huckabee the big duck hunter outshoots the others in this category.

Rudy fails in all categories, McCain and Romney fail on guns, and all fail on borders. So I guess Huckabee has more to offer over the others at this point as he is at least pro-life and pro-gun.

Now comes national defense. Sorry, but I can't see the draft dodging, gun grabbing, gay loving, cross-dressing, illegal alien pandering abortion activist Rudy Giuliani as a very appealing or effective guy to head up our military, even if he did make some rousing anti-terrorist speeches on 9/11. The "gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military" Romney (no military or national security experience that I know of) doesn't give me goosebumps either.

So, again, we're down to Huckabee and McCain. Now you all know that I like Huckabee as he is a likable fellow, and I hate McCain, but wait. If the whole shebang is going to be decided on which of the still standing Republican wannabes should defend America from the terrorists and the surrendering Democrats, I think I'll have to go with McCain over Huckabee. At least McCain served in the military and has a whole lot more military and national security experience while serving on various committees in the senate than does Huckabee. Huckabee has none. And I doubt Huckabee can defeat Hillary. But then, McCain probably won't either, so guess that leaves plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.

Here's praying that the only two all around consistently reliable conservatives hang in there and one of them gets the nod.

Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!


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To: Jim Robinson
I’m voting for that nice young Irish lad, O’Bama I keep hearing about.
181 posted on 01/10/2008 4:29:15 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: bill1952

Your post describes my feelings exactly.


182 posted on 01/10/2008 4:30:00 PM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: Jim Robinson

A question, Jim. Is this a bait thread or is it for real? I feel like the earth has spun off it’s axis and is hurdling into the void. MCain? I can’t believe it.....


183 posted on 01/10/2008 4:30:07 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Jim Robinson
No compromise

Duncan Hunter and Duncan Hunter only.

If the 'powers that be' succeed in dismissing him from the ticket......may God have mercy, cause we're going to need it.

I never thought something like this (the media picking the candidate field we're allowed to choose from----and they're ALL RINO'S!!!!-all due respect I will leave Thompson off of this list)) would happen in my time....

I am truly scared for our nation..

184 posted on 01/10/2008 4:30:23 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I somehow am not thrilled at the prospect of any of these RINOs appointing supreme court justices. Rudy is pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-illegal alien, anti-gun and has a record of appointing liberal judges. And he lies a lot. Romney’s not much better. McCain is insanely unreliable. Have no idea what kind of judges Huckabee has appointed in Arkansas, maybe someone can fill us in.

In any case, it’s FRed for me all the way.


185 posted on 01/10/2008 4:31:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!

Amen, Jim!

186 posted on 01/10/2008 4:31:57 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Bottom line is those are the choices. If you stay home and don’t vote, you have no right to complain if Hillary wins.

Agreed! What could be worse than two or three more Ruth "Badder" Ginsburgs on the SCOTUS?

187 posted on 01/10/2008 4:32:14 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: kabar

If Tancredo’s so anti-amnesty, why in tarnation didn’t he endorse Hunter who built the darn fence in San Diego, and pushed the bill through to get the fences built in the other states?????????????????????


188 posted on 01/10/2008 4:32:22 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Jim Robinson

I know Paul doesn’t have a chance. But I really don’t have that big a problem with Paul. So He AND Huckaboo need some tutoring on foreign policy. Other than that, Paul is a good constitutionalist and gets huge props from me for being the only NON member of the CFR. If Paul were not calling for immediate withdrawal of troops, I believe most FReepers would support him. Having said that, GO FRED!


189 posted on 01/10/2008 4:32:25 PM PST by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
If you stay home and don’t vote, you have no right to complain if Hillary wins.

The first amendment is not dependent on whether one votes or not. One has the right to vote, or not to vote.

190 posted on 01/10/2008 4:32:29 PM PST by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: pissant; Ultra Sonic 007; Calpernia; Duncan Hunter Ambassador

In case y’all haven’t see this from the boss man!


191 posted on 01/10/2008 4:32:44 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: pissant

Nope thank God!


192 posted on 01/10/2008 4:33:12 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: DeusExMachina05
At least he wont stab the troops in the back.

He already did.

Roughly 300 of them.

Listed here by name.

193 posted on 01/10/2008 4:33:24 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
For me, Duncan until he prevails or drops out.

If the latter, on to Fred for me.

If that fails, then a long period of quiet thinking, which will probably result in a vote for the Conservative Alternative rather than for either of the two Democrats in the General Election in November.

What you said goes for me as well.

Thompson is the dividing line for me. If any of the candidates except Fred and Hunter, all of whom are way to the left of Thompson and even farther left of Hunter, wins nomination I will vote for the minor party which comes closest to my views on the important issues. I will never again vote for a RINO no matter who the Democrat nominee is or how awful he or she may be.

After trying to figure out the weird dynamics that are driving voter choices in this campaign season on both sides, I gave up and have now arrived at the simple conclusion that people deserve the kind of officials they vote for. If you vote for a Democrat and he or she wins you deserve the screwing you will get from that Democrat, and if you vote for a RINO and he/she wins you likewise deserve what you will get. Which BTW will not be much different from what you would get from the Democrat if he/she wins.

194 posted on 01/10/2008 4:33:28 PM PST by epow (Isn't it odd how hard working people seem to get all the lucky breaks?)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I just pointed out specific reasons why he doesn’t truly support the military or our country. And, FYI, a lot of military men don’t trust McInsane as well.


195 posted on 01/10/2008 4:33:48 PM PST by MBB1984
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To: Jim Robinson

196 posted on 01/10/2008 4:34:04 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Jim Robinson

The worst Republican is better than the best Democrat.

I never, ever, want the Clintons back in the White House. I never, ever, want Barack Hussein Obama in the White House.


197 posted on 01/10/2008 4:34:22 PM PST by Marcella
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To: Squeako
I just want to know why the media are choosing the candidates for us!!!

Brit Hume just said the SC primary Republican race is down to three: Romney, Huckabee and McCain. Two sentences later said "Thompson can't be counted out." and then said "but essential the race is down to those three."

198 posted on 01/10/2008 4:34:26 PM PST by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: xjcsa
Huck is at least a nice guy. But so is Obama

And peanut-brain Carter, too.

199 posted on 01/10/2008 4:35:23 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: MBB1984
I'm not a McCain supporter. Fred is my choice. But the fact is McCain draws almost as much military support as Fred. One of the reasons that McCain wins in NH is because of the large retired military population in NH.

U.S. Army Retired


200 posted on 01/10/2008 4:35:35 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (ROMNEY: "I LOVE MANDATES.")
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