Posted on 01/10/2008 3:40:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson
The question was posed to me last night, if the only two conservatives in the race were to drop out, leaving the hapless RINOs Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee and McCain to ward off the Evil Witch of the East then, Jim, what do we do?
Well, I think four issues that most of us conservatives will agree on that are at the top or near the top of our priority lists are National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life should be considered. We can argue all day long on whether or not these guys are constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives, and I don't believe any of them are, but we'll leave that for another day. Let's concentrate on National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life.
Well, I can see right off that that rules out Rudy, the draft dodging, gun grabbing, sanctuary city abortionist. At least the other three claim to be pro-life, although Romney has been a pro-choice abortionist for all of his elected history until he decided to run for president. I think Romney's pro choice, big government nanny state (RomneyCare) record gives him two big black eyes and should knock him out of any further consideration. That leaves Huckabee and McCain.
Now, all four of these guys are terrible on border security even though they're all claiming now to be border hawks. McCain led the charge for amnesty and the rest fell in line like dutiful RINO troopers. Can't really make a distinction among these guys on the border issue. All fail, though I think most conservatives would rank McCain at or near the bottom.
Guns. Rudy's definitely out. McCain's out. Romney's not much better. Guess Huckabee the big duck hunter outshoots the others in this category.
Rudy fails in all categories, McCain and Romney fail on guns, and all fail on borders. So I guess Huckabee has more to offer over the others at this point as he is at least pro-life and pro-gun.
Now comes national defense. Sorry, but I can't see the draft dodging, gun grabbing, gay loving, cross-dressing, illegal alien pandering abortion activist Rudy Giuliani as a very appealing or effective guy to head up our military, even if he did make some rousing anti-terrorist speeches on 9/11. The "gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military" Romney (no military or national security experience that I know of) doesn't give me goosebumps either.
So, again, we're down to Huckabee and McCain. Now you all know that I like Huckabee as he is a likable fellow, and I hate McCain, but wait. If the whole shebang is going to be decided on which of the still standing Republican wannabes should defend America from the terrorists and the surrendering Democrats, I think I'll have to go with McCain over Huckabee. At least McCain served in the military and has a whole lot more military and national security experience while serving on various committees in the senate than does Huckabee. Huckabee has none. And I doubt Huckabee can defeat Hillary. But then, McCain probably won't either, so guess that leaves plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.
Here's praying that the only two all around consistently reliable conservatives hang in there and one of them gets the nod.
Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!
Plan A ... work like heck to ensure the RATs no longer control Congress.
“Rudy announced his tax plan yesterday. It’s impressive.
McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts.
McCain wants to close Guantanamo.
Rudy would expand it.
McCain is for a global warming tax.
Yes, I would vote for McCain over any Democrat, but there would be vomit on my ballot.”
Good reminder on how awful McCain is. Romney is still best of the four, but maybe I was wrong to put McCain ahead of Rudy. I just think Rudy’s skeletons in the closet are a bit too much and I cannot abide a prochoice nominee.
It’s tough ... We gotta go with Romney.
Imho, Romney and Guiliani have the best chance of defeating Hillary. McCain and Huckabee are unacceptable.
Has anyone voiced the obvious? John McCain would be three years older than Reagan was if he were to win the nomination. I’m sorry to be so blunt, but he’s too old. Let’s forget the fact that McCain doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ about immigration or free speech - he’s too old.
Take the hit this time around, disown the Republican party and create the Conservative party.
The RNC obviously isn't for conservatism anymore and it is blatantly obvious that the only concern the RNC has is to maintain Republican power at any cost.
Thus conservatism is being shoved off the back burner for good even with the title "the conservative party".
The only difference between the party's anymore is the time taken to destroy conservative values.
Democrat party....now
Republican party....soon.
Amen, EEE. bttt
Here’s what we can all do NOW - roll up our sleeves, put our money where our mouth is, and GET TO WORK for Hunter (or Fred ), whichever you prefer. Make phone calls, send postcards, put up signs, send email links to their websites - help them in every way possible !
I have donated to Hunter’s campaign, put up signs, handed out Hunter promotional materials, and last Saturday afternoon I called sixty NH voters. I will do all I possibly can over the coming months to help Hunter. I feel truly blessed to have a candidate of this calibre to vote for!
Let’s all get to work and do ALL we can to help these two true conservative candidates !!!
“It would be bleak. McCain/Huckabee could work”
No— McCAin/Huckabee COULDN’T work. You’d work. You’d work your -— off for the illegals to freeload off our system of support.
It's just my humble professional judgment based on 20+ years of military service and training in the operational military arts...but I'm sure you are much better prepared to make those judgments based on your years of military experience and training...right? U.S. Army Retired |
I really wish I spoke up for Romney more on this site. I had no idea a McCain or Huckabee win was even remotely possible.
He isn’t my favorite candidate, but he’s damn sure better than the above two and Giuliani.
Stop it. You’re making the bad thoughts come back.
Romney is not pro-amnesty. Tom Tancredo endorsed him. I trust Tom’s judgment on the issue.
You will not see me vote for a liberal Republican.
Thay said, the Indiana primaries are not until May. We vote, but the candidate is usually decided by the time we go to the polls.
I will vote in the primaries for Duncan or Fred, if they are still around.
I will not stay at home on election day unless Ron Paul is the Republican nominee. I will cast my vote for the Republican.
Our Al Qaeda enemies send you profuse thanks for your willingness to vote for Ron Paul the paleosurrendermonkey and Al Qaeda mouthpiece in time of war, no less.
No more 1992’s...look where that got us. Hillary is the worst of the worst and Ill vote for McCain to stop her heinous. At least he wont stab the troops in the back.
Huckabee argh...I would really be unable to vote for him.
Guliani, too liberal for the party.
“Vote RINO and split our principles.”
As much as I hate this debate, I look at it this way. You have a choice, the Republican nominee or Hillary. You can cut it a million ways, base it on principles, morality, who is the bigger RINO, I don’t care.
Bottom line is those are the choices. If you stay home and don’t vote, you have no right to complain if Hillary wins.
Yeah, this election is going to be painful. I absolutely will not vote for McCain or Paul. I’d likely vote for Giuliani but holding my nose and gnashing my teeth the whole while. I’d vote for Huckabee but wouldn’t be particularly happy about it although Huckabee does get some credit in my book for his 2nd Amendment stance. I’m no Romney fan either, but I’d vote for him. He’s saying the right things(for the most part), but I get the impression his core political beliefs aren’t strong, if he actually has any at all. If pressed, I guess I’d have to say Romney is my pick of those. Seems like a smart guy, at least, so I hope he’d do the smart thing most of the time if elected.
I am certain that either Obama or Clinton (her) will appoint new Justices just like Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I am not certain that our Constitution will survive another generation of Justices who violate their oaths of office.
I hope for a conservative Republican nominee. But I may feel forced to vote for an unattractive Republican nominee, because I fear the consequences of an appalling Democrat nominee. That's a rotten situation, but it MAY come down to that.
Congressman Billybob
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