Posted on 01/08/2008 11:25:26 PM PST by Justice
either way you look at it, its a good quote. lol
I don’t believe that.
I think it is more difficult, that staff didn’t do a good job of filtering or no one asked specific questions because Senators would say the Republican President gave a litmus test and that Democrats should go against Judges the same way.
Bump
Hi, I’ll respond in little parts.
Right, hated Bush’s medicine for the elderly welfare and I agree you are 100% right that we don’t need it, a Republican did it and once given candy, it is near impossible to undo it because people depend on it, especially from someone else’s wallet.
Thing is, don’t know which Republican will prevail, but had we gotten Gore before or a Democrat this time, we will get a messed up court, socialized medicine and all sorts of other disasters.
This would just be rotten time for Democrats to prevail in the Presidency.
I do think Bush sent us to the right on reduced taxation and his conducting the war.
Bad news he increased the welfare state and wars always cost us money.
Wasn’t Bush’s choice to be in a war, but we are.
Plus the kidnapping rage is to die for!
Incumbants are tough to get out.
We got rid of a whole bunch of Democrats and Rinos in 1994 using the Contract with America, God forbid we repeat our successes.
The least history I know about is regarding Romney. Seems he is a supposed convert to his ideas.
I take it since you are mentioning him that he could be another problem.
Again, Reagan and Bush blew it on a couple of the Justices. Bad advice or maybe Justices hid who they were in interviews, don’t know. All I know is Democrats are going to elect people like Ginsberg on and on.
I think I'd rather Republicans get 7/9 right than Democrats getting 9/9 all wrong IMO.
Well, the nanny state and politicians opening the treasury to buy the vote is what has screwed up the whole nation.
Republicans on one had want to run on individuals being responsible, yet have as the Democrat people against them who hand social programs and government employment out like candy in exchange for the vote.
Where I see that coming to a close is financial collapse, no one being able to afford the nanny state and Americans moving more to the right.
Still getting back to why I wouldn’t want a non-Republican to take over as President is we have two liberal Justices, socialized medicine, the war and immigration coming and as bad as Republicans can be at times, the Democrat far worse.
Democrats are like drug addicts, the Republicans are kind of wimpy at times trying too hard to be liked and getting slammed for it.
We especially in 2008 don’t want a Democrat picking Justices, new wars and all that.
Regarding international criminal courts, the United States never signed a treaty and if it ever went anti-American, we would IMO just drop out and choose to no longer participate.
I think this election the biggest problem conservatives have is how the main stream press is manipulating the news away from Republican conservatives and toward either the Democrats or populists.
I think this time around the press would mostly love two North Easterners going for President.
They are tired of southerners.
The press should be straight out reporting stuff, all the reporting is commentary or blatantly against conservatism, maybe because the Internet has so screwed their business and that is dominated by conservatives IMO.
I only like a couple of Republicans, but in the end, ANY Republican this election is far better than Hillary or Obama. We have ultra libs that will be elected on the Dem side this year.
Don’t give up...
Yup.
Rocket science is not required.
For instance: (easy example) Ronald Reagan nominated Darth Vader Ginsburg, and I knew simply from reading about the hearing (in my local LIBERAL newspaper) that she is a liberal.
Why couldn't RR or my own Senator know this?
The issue here is not simply "making a mistake", but one of calculated malfeasance.
I would agree that this would be a rotten time for a democrat to gain control. I’ve thought that for every election since the 1960s. It’s my opinion I’ll think that to my dying breath. That’s why I hate like hell to express the opinion that showing the RP that turning into a wing of the Democrat party would be a suicidal move.
We don’t like what we are becoming, but we are willing to continue with a process that is turning us into what we hate.
I know where you are coming from. If you can come up with a way to stop us dead in our tracks and turn us around, I’m all for it. What is it?
Don’t tell me we mush play along another 4, 8, 16, 20, 24..., you get the picture, before we will begin to see big changes. We haven’t got that kind of time.
At least two of the republican candidates would entertain nationalized healthcare. We’ve got our backs up against the wall IMO.
Bush did lower taxes. Good point. He was drawn into a war, fair point. He did increase the welfare state, ouch.
If the cost of the war were the only thing that brought the budget out of balance, I’d understand. If a build-up of the military had caused the same thing, I would have understood. The military spending hasn’t been out of line.
Bush’s compassionate conservatism is what has caused it. His great society program and other great ideas across the board have mushroomed the budget enormously.
Instead of a tax and spend president, we have a borrow and spend president. I actually consider that worse. The public goes along thinking things are okay because it doesn’t hit them directly between the eyes. And when Bush leaves office, the model is there.
Oh this has been done for a long time, but to cut taxes then overspend like there’s not tomorrow. It’s very disconcerting. Then we adopt trade policies that will put extreme pressure on the dollars and encourage foreign investment to go elsewhere. That’s just insane IMO.
It’s sad, but I think you’re on target there. The Mexican people have good hearts, but I sure hate to see what is taking place down there. Why we haven’t stepped in and pressured them to do better, I don’t know.
It’s getting worse by the day too. We’re playing with fire down there. I don’t like to think what twenty years will bring us on our southern border. It could get very ugly. And we could have stepped up and told that government that the border would close and it better clean up it’s act or we would. Now we may have to use our military to get the job done. Isn’t that grand.
We may see a shooting war on our border what with the gangs, smugglers, drug carterls, the corrupt law enforcement and military. It doesn’t look good.
Yes we did a good job in 1994. Newt deserves credit for it. My overall observation is that it only took two to four years to get those fresh young freshmen/women to fall in line with the seasoned dregs. What a sad turn of events.
Today we see the same old legislation passing with no problem at all. Back to ground zero...
How depressing. And why? Because the RP isn’t interested in shaking things up. RINOs are the flavor of the season. It’s not just our presidents. It’s our congressmen and senators too.
We’re in a world of hurt. If we don’t shake things up, we’re not going anywhere near the right direction. And with what is taking place in the early primaries, the future is looking darker by the moment.
We’re headed for a very dark next four years IMO.
The court is always a problem. Earl Warren was so diametrically opposed to the man his appointer thought he was getting, that there was a widespread call to imeach him. It never happened.
In California we had to vote out three of our state supreme court justices, including the chief justice. They kept blocking sound legal measures and we tossed them out. Unfortunately in some ways / and fortunately in othters, we can’t do that with the Supreme Court.
The way things are going, this nation’s last days may see a pristine Supreme Court. At least we’ll have that. We’ll also have no borders, laws that are dictated by an American Union that have been approved by the U.N., no self-representation, no rights, no guns, a very neutered access to religion, communistic/socialistic governance of the sort ever honorable U.S. Citizen/and many non-U.S. citizens have fought against for eternity.
Only then, there will be no white hat coming to the rescue.
We’re pretty much on the same track as far as current assessment goes. I do think you forget that every four years in your lifetime has been a bad four years to see a democrat elected. It will remain so your entire life. And in the end, we will be absorbed into the U.N. Borg no matter what, because we didn’t demand a body of conservative governance.
Look at what we are accepting. Do you think a single one of our candidates would pass muster with our founding fathers? Our founding fathers would take a look at what we have become and cry. This is precisely what they fought to avoid FOR US.
This government will not sustain life liberty and the persuits of happiness. It will sustain life, enslavement and the persuits of support only for it. To hell with the knaves.
I keep seeing this thread on the latest comments and remember the same “logic” over years. Vote against Gore...hold your nose and do it ‘cause the alternative is so much worse.
and what has following the “logic” instead of voting principles gotten us?
CFR, Amnesty, no border fence, and the crowning achievment - DOJ’s brief in the Heller case which basically says that the lower court was wrong and if a state or the feds have good reason for banning a certain type of gun or passing a certain law regulating guns the court should allow them to do so.
That’s all the same SH#T that we would have gotten by voting our principles or sitting home.
Yet no one seems to realize that had we sat one out a couple of cycles ago and told the repukicans in no uncertainn terms that they were why we were sitting out, maybe they would learn to produce better candidates who are actually conservative.
I thought that CFR would be the last straw...but now that I’ve read the Administration’s position in the brief I’ve had ENOUGH.
So, I’m tired of holding my nose when I vote since when you can’t smell the candidate you end up pressing the wrong button and getting Hillary or a reasonable facsimile thereof.
Which is what we got when we held our nose and voted in the last two elections - Hillary lite. He’s screwed us on almost everything important to conservatives.
No, I’m not voting for McManiac to keep Hillary/Obama out. Likewise Romney. Guillani isn’t even a serious option.
Can’t you just hear REM singing “It’s the end of the world as we know it...and I feel fine.”
Bill Clinton signed on. George Bush came along and allowed eighteen months to pass before he uttered one word about it. By then many of our allies had signed on. And then a few days before it being ratified, Goerge Bush decided to pander as if he had a set, and voiced disapproval and the idea he couldn’t do anything about it.
Now that’s leadership.
The U.N.’s dictate was that any government leader could send a letter of approval. These approvals didn’t have to pass legislatures. They didn’t have to meet any standard other than the top official of a nation having approved. On top of that, only something like 40% of U.N. members had to sign on to ratify the measure.
Not fifty percent, not two-thirds, only 40% had to agree to force the ICC on 100% of the world’s nations.
Now you and other feel that we can opt out any time we like, but you can see how successful that has been with the parent organization. We are loathe to pull out even if the rulings come down against us time after time, in fact almost 100% of the time. Why?
The United States has some fear that withdrawing from this international body will isolate us. We will never pull out of the U.N., the I.C.C., the W.T.O. or any other globalist entity. Our leaders believe that would put us at a disadvantage. And so we are taken apart one brick at a time until we lay in ruins.
And our leaders buy into this. Our leftist democrats do and our RINOs do.
Like I said, I believe that we will have the best court money can buy, when we cease to be a nation. And with the FTAA and the UA on the horizon, that day is nearing.
The WTO is now the final arbiter of our trade, with NAFTA coming in a close second. Soon we’ll have a three nation security agreement, and at least our homeland security will be parceled off to ourside management in part. The FTAA will allow the whole hemisphere to manage our trade. And then the AU will take over the governance in total.
And the republicans will dress up in their best will inaugural ball threads, and toast the new perfection that ends us.
And this will end us, wether we vote in a repubican every four years for every four years or not. That’s the problem.
If we never had another democrat president, and if we controled the congress and senate, the above eventuality would take place anyway.
Is that the eventuality we desire? Of course not. And that being the case, we’re going to have to shake things up a little. Either the republican party turns into the conservative party, or we need to build a dominant second party into one.
Otherwise we’re going to suffer the same fate as all those nations of Europe, whose lights are going out one by one.
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