To: calcowgirl
Help me out CCG. What the hell happened....?
On the eve of the Iowa Caucus, all pollsters projected an Obama victory. And they were right.
Now on the very eve of the NH primary, all of the pollsters projected an Obama victory...... and Hillary winds up winning. Something is not right here.
I know that they bussed in union people, and that many precincts ran out of ballots. Someone, somewhere, had to be stuffing ballot boxes.
I cannot believe that little "crying" episode is what did the trick for Hillary.
2,538 posted on
01/08/2008 8:55:00 PM PST by
Cyropaedia
("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
To: Cyropaedia
I can't believe it was the crying jag either...but I do think that was a typical Dem setup.
I think we got set up by the media. I couldn't figure out their negative Hillary talk. THAT'S what I think was a setup....along with the phoney projections.
2,556 posted on
01/08/2008 9:02:01 PM PST by
Sacajaweau
("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
To: Cyropaedia
Help me out CCG. What the hell happened....? I wasn't watching the Dem side that closely to know what the polls and talking heads were saying. From what I saw of the coverage, Hillary won the big urban areas by a landslide.
2,568 posted on
01/08/2008 9:05:41 PM PST by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: Cyropaedia
I strongly suspect monkey business on the Rat side. Okay, maybe the pre-election polls were off, but the exit polls tracked the Republican results but not the Democrats’. I’ll call around in the next few days and see what I can learn from my sources here.
To: Cyropaedia
Look, it's always very nice to claim that if whoever you don't like (most) wins, that someone must have cheated. A couple of dozen folks keep talking about "bussed-in" voters and stuffed ballots. But look at the actual results. Obama underpreformed what you might have expected for a 10-point win EVERYWHERE. In Hanover, where he might have won by 50% he won by 35. In the industrial towns where he should have lost by 10 he lost by 20. In the bedroom suburbs he should have won by a bit, he lost by a bit. Unless those busses went to every town and dropped off a neat small number of people, and those extra ballots went to every polling place -- IT JUST DIDN'T happen. And the whole state is swarming with media and Obama workers -- you think you can run in thousands of folks who aren't registered? Get real, folks. Sometimes a loss is just a loss.
And the discrepancy wit the polls? Remember '04, when it was the Dems whining because the results in Ohio and elsewhere didn't match the exit polls?And did we buy it in the slightest? No, The exit polls are repeatedly wrong -- we remember when they are right, and we don't notice when they say win by 20 and someone wins by 30 -- but they are still very frequently way off.
To: Cyropaedia
I cannot believe that little "crying" episode is what did the trick for Hillary.No way that it did. Not a chance. Obama got "punked" by Hillary's machine.
2,737 posted on
01/09/2008 1:22:00 AM PST by
Caipirabob
(Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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