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US 'doomed' if creationist president elected: scientists
breitbart.com ^

Posted on 01/04/2008 2:12:20 PM PST by Sub-Driver

US 'doomed' if creationist president elected: scientists Jan 4 05:29 PM US/Eastern A day after ordained Baptist minister Mike Huckabee finished first in the opening round to choose a Republican candidate for the White House, scientists warned Americans against electing a leader who doubts evolution.

"The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say smoking is hazardous to your health or we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming," University of Michigan professor Gilbert Omenn told reporters at the launch of a book on evolution by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS).

"I would worry that a president who didn't believe in the evolution arguments wouldn't believe in those other arguments either. This is a way of leading our country to ruin," added Omenn, who was part of a panel of experts at the launch of "Science, Evolution and Creationism."

Former Arkansas governor Huckabee said in a debate in May that he did not believe in evolution.

A poll conducted last year showed that two-thirds of Americans believe in creationism, or the theory that God created humans at a single point in time, while 53 percent believe that humans developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life -- the theory of evolution.

Around a quarter of Americans said they believe in both.

The evolution versus creationism debate has crept into school classrooms and politics, where it is mainly conservative Republicans who espouse the non-scientific belief.

"If our country starts to behave irrationally whereas all the other countries coming up and chasing us (to take over as the world leaders in science and technology) behaving rationally, we are doomed," Omenn said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; evolution; gilbertomenn; kookscientist; leftwingwackjob; phonylogic
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1 posted on 01/04/2008 2:12:22 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
"The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say ... we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming,"

Ha ha!

2 posted on 01/04/2008 2:14:04 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Huckleberry and logic??? ROFLMAO


3 posted on 01/04/2008 2:16:04 PM PST by A. Morgan (Thompson 2008)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, I happen to agree that Huckabee is a nut job. But our kids are lagging in the sciences NOT because not enough Darwinism is taught in the schools, but because the NEA has dumbed them down.


4 posted on 01/04/2008 2:16:17 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sub-Driver

“The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say smoking is hazardous to your health or we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming,” University of Michigan professor Gilbert Omenn told reporters at the launch of a book on evolution by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS).

Ya know Gilbert maybe you got something there and we need to reevaluate some of those policies.

Thanks dork.


5 posted on 01/04/2008 2:16:17 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Creationists aren’t doing any damage. The real anti-science nut jobs are the (mostly) leftist who actively try to stop the advance of genetically modified food. They are doing real measurable damage to people. No negative big media stories about them though.
6 posted on 01/04/2008 2:17:10 PM PST by DManA
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To: tet68

“The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say smoking is hazardous to your health or we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming,”

Maybe we should take up smoking after all?!


7 posted on 01/04/2008 2:17:32 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: Sub-Driver
"The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say smoking is hazardous to your health or we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming," University of Michigan professor Gilbert Omenn told reporters at the launch of a book on evolution by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS).

"I would worry that a president who didn't believe in the evolution arguments wouldn't believe in those other arguments either. This is a way of leading our country to ruin," added Omenn, who was part of a panel of experts at the launch of "Science, Evolution and Creationism."

Boy, I could really throw this guy for a loop. I believe in evolution, I believe man is not responsible for global warming (to any major degree anyway) and I also think smoking is hazardous to your health.

8 posted on 01/04/2008 2:17:59 PM PST by RockinRight (Huck Supporters: Being Christian doesn't make one an automatic conservative. Far from it.)
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".."The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say smoking is hazardous to your health or we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming," University of Michigan professor Gilbert Omenn told reporters at the launch of a book on evolution by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS).

"I would worry that a president who didn't believe in the evolution arguments wouldn't believe in those other arguments either. This is a way of leading our country to ruin," added Omenn, who was part of a panel of experts at the launch of "Science, Evolution and Creationism." .."

Huckabee's Smoking Ban

"..Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee wants a national smoking ban. He says it is a workplace safety issue and compares subjecting restaurant workers to cigarette smoke is like exposing them to radon. He asks us not to think of it as a consumer issue..."

AND Global Warming is debateable.

These scientists have their own articles of faith and their own tendencies to be sloppy with the facts.

9 posted on 01/04/2008 2:18:02 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: BenLurkin
The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say ... we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming,"

And this wack job thinks that HELPS him make his case? What an idiot!

10 posted on 01/04/2008 2:18:13 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Hillary Clinton has never done one thing right. She thinks that qualifies her to be President?)
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To: Sub-Driver
"The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say smoking is hazardous to your health or we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming."

Oh that logic.

11 posted on 01/04/2008 2:19:52 PM PST by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: BenLurkin

“The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say smoking is hazardous to your health or we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming,”

and that “logic” takes a lot more faith than those that believe in a creator, haven’t seen one study saying second hand smoke will kill you, much less seen one death cert of same, and those that believe the SUN is causing global warming, and that humans have very little to do with it.


12 posted on 01/04/2008 2:20:12 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Sub-Driver

The same logic used for warning that smoking is hazardous to health and global warming is real...hmmm.

Have they been lying about the smoking hazard to health, too?


14 posted on 01/04/2008 2:21:19 PM PST by RGVTx
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To: DManA
Creationists aren’t doing any damage.

What planet did you arrive from? Please tell me how replacing science with superstition is going to make our schools better.

15 posted on 01/04/2008 2:21:51 PM PST by GreenOgre (mohammed is the false prophet of a false god.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The Ghost of PatrickHenry arises again.


16 posted on 01/04/2008 2:21:58 PM PST by microgood
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To: Sub-Driver

Huckleberry interviewed by Sean Hannity:

Huckleberry: I wish I hadn’t written the letter.
Huckleberry: That’s one letter I wish I hadn’t written.
Huckleberry: That’s one sentence I should have never said.
Huckleberry: Romney..... and, Mitt Romney ....
Huckleberry: Sean I look forward to your support in November!

nut job


17 posted on 01/04/2008 2:22:40 PM PST by A. Morgan (Thompson 2008)
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To: Sub-Driver

Apparently the only group more opposed to Huckabee than evolution-proponents are the posters on this forum.


18 posted on 01/04/2008 2:23:13 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: MrB
I think you nailed it. “Logic” for these types really is not logic at all.

It is devotion to the groupthink practiced by fellow graduates of left wing science programs.

19 posted on 01/04/2008 2:23:24 PM PST by BenLurkin
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Oh no, doomed! Just as we were “doomed” if:

1. Reagan was elected
2. Reagan cut taxes during a time of deficit
3. Reagan accelerated the arms race
4. George W. Bush was elected
5. George W. Bush was re-elected

etc etc
blah blah blah


20 posted on 01/04/2008 2:23:49 PM PST by dinoparty
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