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Store worker fired for grabbing shoplifter
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 12/29/07 | Dave Gershman

Posted on 12/29/2007 6:08:47 AM PST by madprof98

Ann Arbor, Mich. —- A grocery store worker says he lost his job after he tried to stop a shoplifter from making a getaway.

But the company says he went too far and violated a policy that prohibits employees from physically touching a customer —- even if that person is carrying a bag of stolen goods.

John Schultz, 35, of Ypsilanti Township, had worked at the Whole Foods Market store for five years, most recently as a fishmonger. He wants his job back.

"The fact that I worked at the store at [the time of the robbery] is coincidental," he said. "If I had went over to the bookstore on my break and they were being ripped off, I would have helped them."

Schultz says he had just punched out for a break at 7 p.m. on Sunday when he heard a commotion at the front door of the store. He said he came to the aid of the manager who yelled for help in stopping a shoplifter. Schultz, the manager and another employee cornered the shoplifter between two cars in the parking lot.

Schultz said he told the shoplifter he was making a citizen's arrest and to wait for the police to arrive, but the shoplifter broke away from the group and ran across the street toward a gas station.

Before the man could cross, Schultz caught up and grabbed the man's jacket and put his leg behind the man's legs. When the manager arrived at the intersection, Schultz said, the manager told him to release the shoplifter, and he complied.

Schultz said he was called to the store's office the next day, on Christmas Eve, and was fired because he violated a company policy prohibiting employees from having any physical contact with a customer.

Kate Klotz, a company spokeswoman, said the policy is clear and listed in a booklet that all employees have to acknowledge that they received before they can start work.

"The fact that he touched him, period, is means for termination," said Klotz.


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To: madprof98

Fifteen or twenty other employers should be lined up to hire this responsible individual; I’ll bet he’s not out of work for long!


21 posted on 12/29/2007 6:45:28 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: madprof98
He said he came to the aid of the manager who yelled for help in stopping a shoplifter. Schultz, the manager and another employee cornered the shoplifter between two cars in the parking lot.

The manager should be fired for yelling. Yelling scares the customers and hurts my ears. He and the other employee should also be fired for cornering the shoplifter. Cornering someone is holding someone hostage. That scares people.

22 posted on 12/29/2007 6:46:13 AM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: madprof98
I notice that the employee had clocked out for his break when the ruckus occurred.

I know it's splitting hairs but any legal eagles out there know whether he's acting in the capacity of an "employee" when he had physical contact with the robber if he is clocked out and not being paid?

Technically, the way I see it is the guy wasn't on the clock and working - therefore, he didn't have to abide by the "no physical contact" rule.

However, if he wears a uniform and most likely did not change out of the uniform on his break, I reckon the company could say that by having the uniform on, he would be assumed to be an employee whether being paid or not.

Regardless, give the guy his job back for cryin' out loud.

But, then again, I just realized that the poor robber, by this time and with the help of a lawyer and probably family members and friends, is trying to figure out how to sue "Whole Foods".

What a tangled web we've allowed to be woven.

I'm getting cross-eyed just thinking of all the ramifications possible when one tries to stop crime.

23 posted on 12/29/2007 6:47:03 AM PST by 3catsanadog (Vote for the person at the primaries; vote for the party at the election.)
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To: madprof98

And this shoplifter was a customer?


24 posted on 12/29/2007 6:50:10 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: JimRed

“Fifteen or twenty other employers should be lined up to hire this responsible individual; I’ll bet he’s not out of work for long!”

I agree. I’m sure with all the publicity this case has received, he’ll have plenty of job opportunities to choose from.


25 posted on 12/29/2007 6:51:48 AM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: johniegrad

I hope that Whole foods Market looses Thousands of dollars this Year from Rampant theft.....


26 posted on 12/29/2007 6:52:21 AM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: madprof98
If you live in the area, stop by to let them know you’ll never shop there again and that you’ll help spread the word of just how they treat their employees that care enough to act this heroicly.
27 posted on 12/29/2007 6:52:57 AM PST by TheRake (Still Taxed to death in Michigan....it's getting worse.....and worse)
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To: madprof98

I’ve sent Ms Klotz an email stating that I won’t shop at whole foods again. I won’t post the email addy here, but I will say it’s very easy to find, if anybody cares to let them know what you think.


28 posted on 12/29/2007 6:53:02 AM PST by kms61
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To: stayathomemom
"I would wonder what the proof is that the thief was a customer? Did he have a store receipt?"

LOL!

29 posted on 12/29/2007 6:53:48 AM PST by cake_crumb (Merry Christmas to all, wherever you are; God bless our troops.)
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To: madprof98

No details on the shoplifter, whom I expect belongs to an Accredited Victim Group...and touching an individual in that category is always grounds for termination so as to minimize bad MSM publicity. ;)


30 posted on 12/29/2007 6:55:45 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: madprof98

Let me get this straight. The manager is yelling for help and when help arrives; he fires the help the next day.

Makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah, right. Sometimes policy and rules are bad.


31 posted on 12/29/2007 6:56:50 AM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: freepertoo

Yeah? Well, I was nearly killed by a shoplifter, because he pulled a gun after an employee yelled at him to stop. I suffered emotional trauma and mental anguish and it took me years to recover. Which is why I hope the shoplifter’s cellmate’s name is Bubba.


32 posted on 12/29/2007 6:56:56 AM PST by cake_crumb (Merry Christmas to all, wherever you are; God bless our troops.)
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To: meyer

Especially since th eemployee made sure to make a citizen’s arrest. From that point on, he was technically outside store “police” and a part of our legal system in persuit of a criminal.


33 posted on 12/29/2007 6:58:44 AM PST by cake_crumb (Merry Christmas to all, wherever you are; God bless our troops.)
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To: madprof98
Whole Foods should not be singled out for their policy. A lot of retailers have similar policies. 20 years ago, when I was working as a grocery store assistant manager, we had a similar policy.

They do it more out of fear of lawsuits than for any other reason.

The reality is that if the store has a policy that says employees should physically confront shoplifters and the confrontation results in the injury of the employee, then guess what? The employee will sue the store. And if the employee is mistaken and or uses too much force and the perp is injured, the perp will sue.

Most companies figure the loss in stolen goods is not as great as the potential costs of litigation.

Don’t blame the stores, blame the personal injury lawyers.
34 posted on 12/29/2007 6:58:53 AM PST by Caramelgal (Rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words or superficial interpretations)
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To: madprof98
As a businessman I can see the store's point.

The store's monetary loss is minimal from the stolen items, but if the thief had knifed or shot the store employee after the employee violated store policy by physically confronting the person the store would be sued, the parents, friends and co-workers would be devastated.

As a businessman, I say let the crack-head punk have the $20.00 worth of goods, let the cops handle it. I do not want you hurt.

35 posted on 12/29/2007 6:59:12 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: madprof98

To John Schultz:

Tell your lawyer to argue that the shoplifter was NOT a customer, because he didn’t actually BUY anything from the store. Therefore, you did not actually violate the store’s policy of not touching a CUSTOMER.


36 posted on 12/29/2007 6:59:40 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: cake_crumb
Outside store POLICY and part of our legal system in pursuit of a criminal.
37 posted on 12/29/2007 7:01:30 AM PST by cake_crumb (Merry Christmas to all, wherever you are; God bless our troops.)
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To: savedbygrace

IMO, the guy is too good an employee and was wasted on an establishment like that, anyway. With a policies like that, it’s hard to believe a buyout isn’t coming soon.


38 posted on 12/29/2007 7:03:25 AM PST by cake_crumb (Merry Christmas to all, wherever you are; God bless our troops.)
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To: johniegrad

“I bet he was wearing a multicolored knit cap and had a goatee.”

And you base this on what?


39 posted on 12/29/2007 7:06:23 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: madprof98
I guess it’s open season in this Whole Foods now. You can just grab-n-go.

Seriously, how do you stop shoplifters without touching them. With strong words or bright lights?

40 posted on 12/29/2007 7:06:32 AM PST by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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