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1 posted on 12/17/2007 10:56:39 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower
Great essay!

"Gun free zones are free killing zones."


2 posted on 12/17/2007 11:01:48 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: neverdem

“Denial of reality is treason to the self.”


3 posted on 12/17/2007 11:04:06 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: neverdem
In Colorado, the killer shot two people at a missionary center, returned home to post a hateful diatribe on the Internet and — armed with plenty of ammo and several firearms — killed four more at a church before a volunteer security guard shot him.

MISINFORMED WRITER ALERT.

Let me see. Two in Arvada. Four more wounded in Colorado Springs, two of whom were sisters and died. The Dad of the two girls makes three, he is alive and well and one other (escorted from the Church yesterday....by police) makes four people shot....

So this guy got that wrong. I count a TOTAL of four killed, five if you count the killer who killed himself.
4 posted on 12/17/2007 11:06:54 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: neverdem

God bless the woman’s steady hand, and her 9mm Beretta. The word “hero” is thrown about generously these days, but she is a real hero.


5 posted on 12/17/2007 11:07:36 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: neverdem
who was fired from her Minnesota law enforcement position and was praying for new direction in her life in a new town

Honestly, I'm thinking this person is writing this with a NEW attack on Jeanne Assam, in another attempt at discrediting her... "Fired from her Minnesota law enforcement position" and then trying to obfuscate this remark with "praying for her congregation".... (After reading the news online.... as if she PREPARED for this ahead of time)
6 posted on 12/17/2007 11:10:26 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: neverdem

“Should the state be obligated to provide armed guards in schools or on college campuses if by law those areas are gun-free zones?”

They would say that the police do that already. But obviously they don’t, do they? My cousin Daniel Rohrbough was killed at Columbine while the police waited outside the building. That kind of thinking will get others killed until we face up to the facts of human nature. There are worse things than having an armed society.


8 posted on 12/17/2007 11:16:05 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: neverdem

There’s a simple way to deal with businesses who want to ban the lawful carry of firearms on their premises.

As it is private property, they have the right to do so. However, many of them do it not just out of fear of firearms but also out of fear of liability lawsuits - they think that if something happens, they can point to their sign on the door and say “See, we didn’t permit this so we’re not responsible”.

So make the choice a lot simpler. Pass a law that says that any business that chooses to deny its customers and employees the right to lawfully carry arms for self defense on the property may do so. However, the business must then post large (3’x2’, in high-visibility black and white) signs at *every* entrance to their facility and again at every entrance to their building(s). The business must also provide an armed security guard at no charge to each and every person (that’s one guard per person) unless they specifically state that they do not wish such protection. Failure to do the first should result in large fines; failure or choice not to do the second should result in large fines compounded daily *and* total civil and criminal liability should a shooting incident occur on their property.

Now to compensate for this huge liability exposure, any business who *does* allow lawful carry and provides “normal” levels of security (for whatever region and industry) should be immune from civil or criminal liability if a shooting incident should occur on their property.

This is no more onerous than some OSHA or other such Federal regulations. And I should think that many businesses would jump at this.


16 posted on 12/17/2007 11:28:06 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: neverdem

Sometimes I am real happy to live in Fairbanks. The News-Minor is a pretty good paper, and the reson why the lefties up here choose to get the Anchorage paper instead.


31 posted on 12/17/2007 1:28:50 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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“And, really, does anyone think to bring their gun to church?”

OPINION: Those people who are legally licensed to carry often
do carry - and that includes church, too.

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32 posted on 12/17/2007 2:27:49 PM PST by Cindy
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To: neverdem
I'm sorry, but this bit about "if someone had only cared a little more" is nothing but touchy-feely crap. The facts are our society is reaping the benefits of what it has sown. This generation of kids is not taught discipline (oh, your adhd so you can act any way you please), respect for themselves or for others, and are taught that life is nothing more then fulfilling your own narcissitic needs.

It wasn't so long ago that kids were taking rifles to school in order to hunt on the way home, yet I can't recall any stories similar to events taking place today. Not to mention the fact that most of these evil self-centerend kids are coming from broken homes. It's only going to get worse, you can already see that among these monsters killing a lot of innocent people is the cool way to go.

33 posted on 12/17/2007 4:13:37 PM PST by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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