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Vanity-GPS Navigation Devices Question
11.29.07 | trumandogz

Posted on 11/29/2007 1:03:30 PM PST by trumandogz

For last two weeks I have been using a Garmin Nuvi 200W GPS Navigation systmen and have had problems with the unit keeping its connection with the Satellites. The loss of connection appears to be random even occurring in areas without tree cover or large buildings.

At times the unit can go 20 to 30 minutes without a connection all in areas where a connection with at least one satellite should not be a problem.

I returned the first unit in exchange for a second and both units have had the very same problem.

I have placed the unit(s) on different parts of the windshield with out resolution.

My question is:

Do other people have the same problem with their GPS units?

Do other people have better experience with Tom Tom or another manufacturer?

Is this a problem that I will have to deal with no matter what brand of navigation system I use?


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To: trumandogz
Check to see if your firmware is the latest offering. The support page is here.
21 posted on 11/29/2007 1:18:13 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: trumandogz
I believe you need a link to at least 3 sats for a gps system to work.

What part of the country do you live in? Are a lot of hills?

You might have a bad or intermittent link to one or more of your sats.

22 posted on 11/29/2007 1:19:06 PM PST by SGCOS
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To: Log

I thought the windshield may be a problem but I have taken the unit out of the car and that only solves the problem sometimes.


23 posted on 11/29/2007 1:19:09 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz

The only thing worse than one that loses lock is one that lies.


24 posted on 11/29/2007 1:19:21 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: twigs

Is the unit well forward on the dash? Or better than that is detector outside? Signal will not go through metal - roof of the car. My brother rented a car this week w/ one and the detector was mounted on the trunk. Detector was small - smaller than a box of matches. I have used a hand held unit on planes and it works well if you have a window seat. Won’t work if on an asile. To use my hand held in a car, have to put it against the windshield as far forward as possible.

Hope this helps.


25 posted on 11/29/2007 1:19:26 PM PST by PhilSC
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Are you logged in?

26 posted on 11/29/2007 1:19:55 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: trumandogz
If your car does have a film on the windows that is interfering with the GPS you can either mount an external antenna, or if you still get good cell phone reception you could possibly use the "GPS" service from a cell phone provider.

The cell phones are actually calculating their distance from various towers rather than using satellite signals directly, so if the frequencies the cell phones use don't have trouble with the film, it won't matter that the film blocks the satellite signals.

There are also places where a cell phone GPS will work where a real GPS receiver will not and vice versa. The cell phone ones may still work indoors or in a city with tall buildings where you can't get line of sight to the satellites. However, in rural areas where cell service is hit and miss, the satellite is your best choice.

27 posted on 11/29/2007 1:20:43 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: Myrddin

Thanks. I will try to update it.

Good idea.


28 posted on 11/29/2007 1:20:51 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz

Doesn’t sound right at all. We’ve “lived with” the Nuvi 350 for about a year with no complaints. The performance has been outstanding. FWIW, the unit needs to “see” 3 satellites to find its location — 4 or more (of the 27 in the constellation) is better.

Where do you have it located — the front windshield is where ours is, but it will work fine just held in your hand or sitting in your lap. I’ve used the Garmin handheld GPS units for years — inside a boat. Never needed an external antenna, but, again, its mounted near a windshield, so it can “see” at least a third of the sky at all times.


29 posted on 11/29/2007 1:21:43 PM PST by iMacMan
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To: trumandogz

It could be the car itself interfering with the signal. Some units can be connected to an external antenna mounted on the roof of the car so if you can get one it should help. Do you get a clear signal when you take it out of the car?


30 posted on 11/29/2007 1:22:19 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: trumandogz
I have a 3 year old Magellan and have only noticed loss of signal when in a garage or inside my house. I love my "Maggie" and even bought one for my mother for Christmas this year. (Don't tell her, it's a suprise).

It runs on a battery, car charger or an ac adapter, but it loses signal inside a building.

31 posted on 11/29/2007 1:22:42 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: iMacMan

I have placed it on all parts of the windshield within sight excluding those that would cause me to not see the road.


32 posted on 11/29/2007 1:24:05 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz
Remember that one bird doesn’t do you any good. Need minimum of two to fix 2d position and three to refine 2d and get basic 3d.
33 posted on 11/29/2007 1:24:07 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I use a bluetooth receiver that connects to a laptop or PDA. I keep the receiver in the trunk of my bike and have a mount on the handlebars for my Pocket PC.


34 posted on 11/29/2007 1:24:39 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: Squawk 8888

Sometimes yes, other times no.


35 posted on 11/29/2007 1:24:46 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz
Do other people have better experience with Tom Tom or another manufacturer?

I bought a tomtom a week ago and have used it almost every day to get used to it in a couple of different vehicles. It very rarely drops the signal and even then for only a few seconds. One place it drops is parking right in front of my house...which makes sense. I love it.

36 posted on 11/29/2007 1:25:04 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Wiz

Used a INS, but the gyroscope took up the entire trunk!


37 posted on 11/29/2007 1:25:08 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: All
Not that car manufacturers are sneaky, but I imagine they would want you to purchase a car unit. I'd call the company that makes them. These Techs are terrific.

I always check mine on a point I've repeated many times which happens to be a local control monument with Lat and Long. Yes, I'm obsessed!!

38 posted on 11/29/2007 1:25:24 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: trumandogz
I saw a article headline on spacedaily.com yesterday that the Dutch company Tom Tom is under investigation by the EU.
39 posted on 11/29/2007 1:27:09 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: untrained skeptic

Real GPS is accurate to 33 feet lat/lon and 16 feet vertical. How accurate is the cell phone pseudo-GPS?


40 posted on 11/29/2007 1:27:11 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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