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"As a worker was removing tubes from Dunlap's body in preparation for medical personnel to remove his organs, Dunlap reached out and touched a nurse's arm"

'COMA'

1 posted on 11/21/2007 9:47:39 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Oh, sweet Jesus. This is scary.


2 posted on 11/21/2007 9:49:37 AM PST by PeterFinn (I'm voting for Tom Tancredo.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
He did say the likelihood that someone who has been confirmed to be brain dead could "wake up" is "almost impossible."

Well dang if that doesn't remind me of something.

3 posted on 11/21/2007 9:51:44 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
This is the reason why I will not succumb to the liberal socialist harvesting of human body parts process,becuase once you sign that organ donors card, you are on a roll, and they can miss the spark of life.

Dead id Dead, and there needs to be a thorough way of examining someone required by law BEFORE organs are harvested. OIf the surgeon harvesting was the same one doing a liver transplant an our later, chances are this young man would no longer be among the living, killed by a harvester.

Something to rememeber.

I would only sign an organ donation card if they promised to run an EKG and electronic heart monitor scan, enforced by law, and a guarantee that the harvesting physicians were NOT transplant doctors,before they took them from my "freshly dead" body.

4 posted on 11/21/2007 9:55:11 AM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

~Prayers~


5 posted on 11/21/2007 9:57:11 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

If you sign up as an organ donor on your driver’s license, you’re asking for trouble.

When you go to the emergency room, the doctor there should have as his first priority saving your life. But suppose they just happen to be waiting for an organ to save somebody else’s life, and maybe make a bigger profit on it as well? This introduces a conflict of interest, even if the doctor is completely honest.

Also, note, that organs cannot usually be harvested when a person is actually dead. It’s too late. They are best harvested while the person is still alive—that is, when the cells in his body and in the organs in question are still alive. So, they start talking about “brain dead” or “terminal coma.” But those are both very questionable states to define. You don’t really know if it is terminal unless you wait for the guy to actually die. But then you risk losing the use of his organs.

Not a good situation, because it raises conflicting priorities and undermines what should be the doctor’s primary aim, to save your life if in any way possible.


7 posted on 11/21/2007 10:00:34 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Um, I’ve read the story twice now and I can’t tell if he’s still alive or dead.


8 posted on 11/21/2007 10:00:56 AM PST by BigTex5
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I don’t see why this means that the “organ donation movement takes a hit.” All it means is that the docs (happily) mis-pronounced, and the guy didn’t die after all.


9 posted on 11/21/2007 10:03:03 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Not the first time Ive heard of this happening. I wont identify myself as a walking organ bank.

Beware: The last time I was down at DMV for a new license, the DMV chickie put the organ donor dot on my license and laminated it on. I refused the card and demanded another. She did it again and I refused again. I started making a scene and when others started listening about why I wouldnt become a donor she quickly made a third undotted license. The government ghouls can be very persistent.

10 posted on 11/21/2007 10:11:27 AM PST by gnarledmaw (It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Not the first time Ive heard of this happening. I wont identify myself as a walking organ bank.

Beware: The last time I was down at DMV for a new license, the DMV chickie put the organ donor dot on my license and laminated it on. I refused the card and demanded another. She did it again and I refused again. I started making a scene and when others started listening about why I wouldnt become a donor she quickly made a third undotted license. The government ghouls can be very persistent.

11 posted on 11/21/2007 10:11:30 AM PST by gnarledmaw (It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Sweet Caroline...


15 posted on 11/21/2007 10:16:13 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

"But I'm not yet yet!"

"No, but you soon will be!"

18 posted on 11/21/2007 10:17:52 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE true conservative candidate.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

one of the reasons a NON-organ donor card can be useful.

It is really creepy how those organ donor ghouls sometimes seem to be hoping for someone to die.


21 posted on 11/21/2007 10:21:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
He did say the likelihood that someone who has been confirmed to be brain dead could "wake up" is "almost impossible."

True...you don't see many liberals coming to their senses, do you...
22 posted on 11/21/2007 10:22:11 AM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Evidently he was only mostly dead.

I'm glad he's OK.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

24 posted on 11/21/2007 10:26:11 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
If I am sick/injured enough that medical personnel would even consider me for a harvest, they can harvest away. I wouldn't want to have someone watering my garden every day. My organs/tissues would benefit more people than the condition in which I would be living.
25 posted on 11/21/2007 10:28:07 AM PST by ebersole
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Hey! Gimme my gizzard back!


30 posted on 11/21/2007 10:32:44 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Tulsa Ramjet; All

First, I’m glad that this person is on the road to recovery.

But understand the medicine is not a “perfect” science. Even with all the advances in monitoring equipment and tests, etc., as interpretations and judgments are still made by human beings, mistakes will happen. While the mistakes are reported in dramatic fashion by a media that just loves to be dramatic and exploitive, I tend to believe that they are the very rare exception rather than the rule.

Do some of you really think that most doctors are ghoulishly waiting in the shadows just waiting to rip the organs out of a still living human being? Given the potential for huge malpractice suits, I think this a very highly unlikely scenario.

Besides, most doctors I’ve known see the death of their patient as a personal defeat and they are much more apt to err on the side of life.

I’m confident that a whole lot more lives are saved by organ donation than the miniscule amount of mistakes made in the determination of brain death.

I’m a registered organ donor and I really don’t lay awake at night worrying that some ghoul with a scalpel is going to mistake my REM sleep for brain death.


76 posted on 11/21/2007 11:49:31 AM PST by Caramelgal (Rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words or superficial interpretations)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

This story is making the news rounds today.


137 posted on 03/25/2008 4:56:24 AM PDT by syriacus (If BHO Jr. is elected, will he become a TWHP? (Typical White House Person))
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Hospital = chop shop


138 posted on 03/25/2008 5:16:51 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Vaclav Klaus on global warming skeptics: "A whip of political correctness strangles their voice")
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