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1 posted on 11/14/2007 12:25:43 PM PST by Caleb1411
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Didn’t they charge Scott Peterson with the murder of his unborn son?

The pro-choicers love having it both ways.


2 posted on 11/14/2007 12:27:46 PM PST by Slapshot68
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Pro-Choicers will certainly want to set this effort aside so we can pursue “Comprehensive Abortion Reform”...


3 posted on 11/14/2007 12:29:47 PM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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Praise God!!!

“MAMA” - Written by Jo Nuvark

Mama; Mama, don’t blame me for your blues.
I may be inconvenient, but it’s much too late to choose.
Listen with your heart, you’ll hear my still small voice.
Let me live I’ll be your life, your child not your choice.

Mama; Mama, give me time to work my charms.
When you see my face, you’ll know the place for me is in your arms.
I’m not lonely just alone and looking forward to
The way you’ll hold me Mama just like God is holding you.

Like a summer breeze and the morning dove,
We were chosen for each other by the Lord of love.
Agreeing with each breath and sigh in unison,
We’re two hearts beating rhythm as a single drum.

Mama; Mama, I’m yours by God’s design.
Your custom composition, a clipping from His vine.
Eternally He’s known our names for such a time as this.
Fashioned for each other’s needs to cherish, love and bless.

Mama; Mama, if it’s hard to understand,
Just look at this from heaven, then you’ll see God’s plan.
Let my smile dance with yours. Let our songs be one voice.
Mama; Oh Mama, make me your choice.


4 posted on 11/14/2007 12:33:10 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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—this will lose and it will take out a few more Republican legislators—


5 posted on 11/14/2007 12:33:15 PM PST by rellimpank (--we need a special font for <b>SARCASM</b>--NRA benefactor)
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I believe this is a strategy that Duncan Hunter has tried to use on the national level.

I pray it works.
6 posted on 11/14/2007 12:36:12 PM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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Every state should pass a similar law. If the laws are challenged, in federal courts, the judges should decide against hearing the cases. The 10th Amendment states that all powers that aren’t reserved for the federal government, in the Constitution, are reserved for the states or the people. Abortion isn’t mentioned in the Constitution, since few women wanted to kill their babies in the 1780’s, so federal involvement, in abortion, is unconstitutional.


7 posted on 11/14/2007 12:36:30 PM PST by PhilCollins
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...for the fetus' right to life is then guaranteed specifically by the [14th] Amendment."

Good. But it is still astonishing to me that this should even have to be debated.

8 posted on 11/14/2007 12:38:58 PM PST by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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Thanks grownups!!!

9 posted on 11/14/2007 12:40:53 PM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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Look, I've been fighting abortion since before I can remember, but I don't think something like this is likely to work.

First of all, if it were to pass, it would create a whole host of unintended and unforseen consequences. For example, if a fetus is defined as a person equal to all other persons under all Colorado laws, could not a pregnant mother be punished for doing anything that might harm the fetus: driving without a seat belt, smoking, eating poorly. That would be reckless endangerment. Do we want a whole new layer of nanny state government watching over every pregnant woman's actions?

And secondly, the public just doesn't go for changing things with legal "tricks" like this. Believe it or not, the American electorate is pretty sophisticated (we're a great country, what can I say?) and they understand that if we want to change the law on abortion, we should have that debate and change that law. So far (to my dismay), they haven't wanted to change that law (by amending the Constitution or electing a president and senate who will give us a foolproof anti-Roe court). But most attempts to do an end-run around things with tricky language fall flat. Fancy lawyering is just a bunch of words and the people don't go for that.

So, while I agree with the goal, I think this effort is misguided and bound to fail. JMHO

13 posted on 11/14/2007 1:26:46 PM PST by mngran2
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Beware of the law of unintended consequences. What happens, for example, if a woman engages in activities that result in a miscarriage before she even knew she was pregnant? Do you charge her with negligent homicide? What about women, who know they are pregnant, who engage in activities that increase the risk of miscarriage? If, in fact, a miscarriage occurs, are they guilty of criminally negligent or reckless behavior? And will th parents of unborn children have the right to claim an extra deduction on their state tax return?


16 posted on 11/14/2007 1:36:09 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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When The Time Comes

When the time comes as it surely will, when we face that awesome moment, the final judgment, I've often thought, as Fulton Sheen wrote, that it is a terrible moment of loneliness. You have no advocates, you are there alone standing before God and a terror will rip through your soul like nothing you can imagine. But I really think that those in the pro-life movement will not be alone. I think there will be a chorus of voices that have never been heard in this world but are heard beautifully and clearly in the next world and they will plead for everyone who has been in this movement. They will say to God, "Spare him because he loved us," and God will look at you and say not, "Did you succeed?" but "Did you try?"

~ Henry Hyde ~
Republican Congressman 1975 to 2006
Receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom, November 5, 2007


20 posted on 11/14/2007 2:05:54 PM PST by avacado
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This is about the only thing I can feel good about in the last few weeks for the GOP and the pro-life movement.


21 posted on 11/14/2007 2:12:42 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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Yea; Finally some good news politically coming out of Colorado (something has to be done to STOP the liberal tide, there..)!


22 posted on 11/14/2007 2:15:36 PM PST by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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I’ve tried for years to get right-to-life groups to use Roe to pass laws outlawing abortion after the 4th week of pregnancy. The child has its own distinct, human, DNA. He has his own blood and heartbeat, and starting in the 5th week brain waves.

DNA proves the baby is human and a separate unique human being. The brain waves and heartbeat show the baby is alive. In other words, modern science proves the personhood of the baby at 5 weeks of life. It’s just scientific fact.

Many women don’t even know for sure they are pregnant at 4 weeks. The vast number of abortions would be outlawed by Roe if states would just use science and the law as created by the Court in Roe.


30 posted on 11/14/2007 6:43:00 PM PST by SUSSA
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