Posted on 10/22/2007 6:50:24 PM PDT by VA Voter
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government'
'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury'
'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship'
'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'
'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage'
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Gore: 19 Bush: 29
Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000 Bush: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million Bush: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13.2 Bush: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare...' Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the 'governmental dependency' phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
If you are in favor of this then delete this message if you are not then Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom. Thanks for reading.
This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.
I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.
How Long Do We Have?
We have pretty long. The USA is not a democracy, it’s a republic, a constitutional republic with representative government.
Democrats want to turn the USA into a democracy, republicans want to keep the republic concept.
According to the formula, we are living on borrowed time, at the 230-year mark.
We are firmly in the apathy phase, entering the total dependency stage.
See: http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp
The quote is supposed to come from his book “Universal History”.
I have been searching for this book without luck.
Our local library is looking for a copy as they can request any book from any Texas library or state supported college.
See my post 5
http://lorencollins.net/tytler.html
“Hemline University”? Where was this guy a professor, in the School of Fashion Design?
Thank you. Every time I hear someone refer to our form of government as a democracy, I want to strangle a public school teacher.
Republic and Democracy are not mutually exclusive. We have a representative Democracy in the form of a Republic (ie. with an elected head of state).
Democracy appears to be a temporary respite from humanity's default condition which is tyranny!
Other than that, continue spreading your revelation and discovery about us being a republic!
The university in St Paul is ‘Hamline”.
Please note that the reference to a 200 year average national life is not specific to democracies but to “’The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history.”
You are correct:
DISCLAIMER: There is an e-mail floating around the internet dealing with the 2000 Bush/Gore election, remarks of a Scotish philosopher named Alexander Tyler, etc. Part of it is attributed to me. It is entirely BOGUS as to my authorship. I’ve been trying to kill it for 3 years. For details see:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp.
From the professor’s Hamline bio.
http://www.hamline.edu/law/professors/joseph_olson.html
Needs repeating... over and over...
” The franchise (right to vote) should be limited to property owners - or even better to taxpayers. This would minimize the effect of people voting themselves “gifts” from the public treasury.”
We all know what would happen. The rats would buy an acre of land in every state and then sell rat voters a square millimeter for a penny so the voter fraud and consequent theft would continue.
That is very interesting and makes a lot of sense.
We don’t have long...it actually is over as a free nation (America)
How in the hell did you stumble on this 5 year old post?
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