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New Jersey: Clinton 51% Giuliani 40%
Rasmussen Reports ^ | October 16, 2007 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 10/16/2007 10:17:02 AM PDT by Kuksool

Hillary Clinton leads Rudy Giuliani 51% to 40% in an early look at the race for New Jersey’s Electoral Votes. A Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds that Clinton has larger leads over other Republican Presidential hopefuls. She leads Fred Thompson by eighteen points (53% to 35%), John McCain by sixteen (52% to 36%), and Mitt Romney by twenty-four (55% to 41%).

Clinton is viewed favorably by 58% of Garden State voters while Giuliani earns positive reviews from 59%. Fifty percent (50%) offer a positive assessment of both Thompson and McCain while 39% express a favorable opinion of Romney.

Seventy-seven percent (77%) of the state’s voters say it’s at least Somewhat Likely that Democrats will win New Jersey in Election 2008. Only 12% say it’s not likely.

Before that, however, there are state legislative elections featuring corruption and property tax relief as leading issues. Fifty-seven percent (57%) of voters say corruption is the top issue while 36% are more interested in property taxes. However, they don’t have much faith in either political party to address either issue.

Thirty-three percent (33%) say they trust Democrats more on the corruption issue while 29% prefer the GOP. Thirty-three percent (33%) don’t trust either party and 5% are not sure.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; nj2008
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To: mainerforglobalwarming

Wouldn’t you say that Florida is also a must win in addition to Ohio, Missouri and Virginia? Or do you think a Pubbie can take it without Florida?


61 posted on 10/16/2007 11:23:36 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Kuksool

Nothing really surprising about this poll. The dems have pretty much decided on Hillary ( ONE nominee ) BUT the Republicans have not yet put all their energy behind ONE nominee. Therefore the results are not that accurate for a one to one.


62 posted on 10/16/2007 11:26:30 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: DallasJ7
While I really don’t see Guiliani being competitive in Pennsylvania, I agree with you that Guiliani would do us plenty of damage down ticket.
63 posted on 10/16/2007 11:28:12 AM PDT by caltrop
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To: Bobkk47
The preponderance of VOTERS in this country are center-right. They’re not going to put a pro-marxist, tax-raising commie into the White House.

They won't, but the dead, illegal, multiple, votes-for-cigs voters certainly will give it their best shot.

The fact that voter ID laws have not caught on across the country does not bode well for future, LEGITIMATE elections.

64 posted on 10/16/2007 11:33:49 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Political Correctness is criminal insanity writ large.)
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To: Bobkk47
"The preponderance of VOTERS in this country are center-right."

If we assume that is correct, then why would the Republicans nominate someone left of center?

65 posted on 10/16/2007 11:39:34 AM PDT by penowa
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To: Greg F
That a GOP candidate can no longer win a national election ...

No, not at all.

What I am saying is that we must plan and calculate to win without those states.

Bush won without those states in 04, right?

But it was close, and we no longer have a incumbent or strong candidate.

Toss the Clintons into the mix and the odds are against us.

Pa might not be a total lock so we have to spend big in Pa to keep the dems spending big there, but I am under no illusions.

They will do the same to us in Florida - spend big, but the clintons are not counting Florida in the win column.

Think about it.

Flip one other state with a smart pick for VP and we look very bad.
Lose Ohio and its Katie bar the door and hello madam president.

66 posted on 10/16/2007 11:40:35 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: Alberta's Child; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican
The "nonpartisan" redistricting committee in New Jersey has traditionally drawn districts so that they criss-cross the state in an east-west fashion. Outside of the two "minority-plurality" districts (Payne and Sires), this is still the case. However, they also have a tendency to cluster all of the high density areas into Dem districts, while leaving most of the exurban and rural areas in Republican districts. Rush Holt is my congressman largely because the district was redrawn to include all of Trenton, to say nothing of Princeton. Same goes for Frank Pallone, who has the high density Dem strongholds in Middlesex County (Edison, New Brunswick, Woodbrige) to overwhelm the GOP leaning areas in Monmouth.

By contrast, the only urban/high density areas in GOP districts are Plainfield (in Mike Ferguson's district) and Atlantic City (in LoBiondo's district) but, in both cases, the rural and exurban areas have the balance of the population.

67 posted on 10/16/2007 11:43:53 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Bobkk47
Calm down everyone, these polls mean very little at this point.

Bull$hit! Everyone in the country has pretty much formed an opinion of Hitlery one way or another, it's been out there for everyone to see for fifteen years.

The election is over a year away.

Yep, and as more people find out just how liberal Rooty Toots really is, the worse it will get.

68 posted on 10/16/2007 11:47:43 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: bilhosty
The GOP started to over identify with the south and Small town America and New Jersey swung to the Dem’s. For every action there is a reaction. With a swing to a urban candidate New Jersey can and will swing back. Check this out.

Try more like 15-20 years ago. The demographics have changed drastically. There has been a large outflow of Republican leaning voters, especially from Bergen, Middlesex, and even Monmouth Counties, to say nothing of inner suburban areas like Clifton in Passaic County. In their place has come a large wave of immigrants from Asia (India and Korea especially) and Latin America, to say nothing of ex-New Yorkers. The latter group are the main reason that the Dems now controls such once solidly Pubbie towns as Summit, Millburn, and Tenafly.

It has NOTHING to do with the national party, it has to do with corruption and the collapse of the local party and shifting demographics. The GOP has run moderate candidates such as Forrester and Kean in recent years, and they have lost to the likes of Lautenberg and Menendez. Forrester and Kean would have probably won had so many Republican voters moved to North Carolina, Florida, and Pennsylvania.

69 posted on 10/16/2007 11:48:46 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: bill1952
Flip one other state with a smart pick for VP and we look very bad. Lose Ohio and its Katie bar the door and hello madam president.

Dude. You are totally scaring me, ok? Just stop it.

70 posted on 10/16/2007 11:50:00 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Clemenza

We should be able to take Indian and Korean votes for Republicans.


71 posted on 10/16/2007 11:53:31 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Kuksool
My home state of New Jersey is the most corrupt state I can think of.

It is called The Garden State because that's where all the bodies are.

72 posted on 10/16/2007 11:58:36 AM PDT by ditto h
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To: Greg F

I wish. Unfortunately, most of my Indian friends and colleagues are “conservatives of the heart, liberals of the brain.” They hate the high taxes of NJ, however.


73 posted on 10/16/2007 12:00:07 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Kuksool

Gee, you would think that powers that be have selected our candidates for President 2008.

I don’t remember Guilliani being the pic; nor Hillary?


74 posted on 10/16/2007 12:02:50 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Clemenza
"Republican voters moved to North Carolina, Florida, and Pennsylvania."

Hey I moved back from Pennsylanvia to NJ. I saw PA dump Fitzpatrick and Santorum and Ferguson just squeaked through as a Republican not opposed by the NEA. Republicans that I know in both States have flipped. It's more than demographics. Republicans that I know in both States have flipped. International corporate, Wall Streeters and bomb Iran folks are the Alamo. A question that has been raised is which of the Bush cabinet appointments was the best? Even Bill Clinton has risen like a Phoenix. Who would have thunk it 8 years ago?

75 posted on 10/16/2007 12:06:55 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: All
Hillary: the queen of self and pelf. The she in shenanigans.
76 posted on 10/16/2007 12:11:08 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: ex-snook
Its amazing that the GOP held on to all of their seats in '06. Ferguson was the most vulnerable, but he was able to tie Linda Stender to corruption and fiscal irresponsability, and that put him over.

I'm afraid that Chris Smith's district is fairly vulnerable, as is LoBiondo's. Contrary to popular belief, the most conservative areas in NJ are in NORTH(West) New Jersey. Much of South Jersey is comprised of blue collar suburbs with Philly union and mafia rats who vote for idiots like Rob Andrews.

77 posted on 10/16/2007 12:12:59 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: ex-snook
Its amazing that the GOP held on to all of their seats in '06. Ferguson was the most vulnerable, but he was able to tie Linda Stender to corruption and fiscal irresponsability, and that put him over.

I'm afraid that Chris Smith's district is fairly vulnerable, as is LoBiondo's. Contrary to popular belief, the most conservative areas in NJ are in NORTH(West) New Jersey. Much of South Jersey is comprised of blue collar suburbs with Philly union and mafia rats who vote for idiots like Rob Andrews.

78 posted on 10/16/2007 12:13:06 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Alberta's Child

When Garrett decided to run for Congress, the NJ GOP feared he was too extreme. The state party and media said only Christie Whitman types can win in Jersey. Garrett received little support from the state party. The retiring RINO incumbent (Marge Rokemuna Sp?)did not endorse him at all. He did win the general election proving the Jersey RINOs wrong.

What I fear about a Giuliani White House is that he will put Jersey RINOs in charge of the national parties who will insist on running Christie Whitman types in MS and UT.


79 posted on 10/16/2007 12:18:50 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Clemenza

Buy your Indian coworkers all anonymous subscriptions to the National Review or something. Slip Hayek’s “The Fatal Conceit” into their mail slots at work.


80 posted on 10/16/2007 12:27:47 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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