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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #8 – Dearborn, MI 10/09/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 10/09/2007 11:58:39 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #8 – Dearborn, Michigan 10/09/07 - Official Discussion Thread

CNBC/MSNBC/The Wall Street Journal are jointly sponsoring the first Republican Presidential debate of the 2008 campaign focusing on economic issues. It will be held on October 9 in Dearborn, Michigan at the University of Michigan-Dearborn at the Ford Community and Performing Arts Center. Broadcast is live on CNBC at 4 PM ET (1 PM PT) and re-broadcast on MSNBC at 9 PM ET (6 PM PT). CNBC's Maria Bartiromo and MSNBC's Chris Matthews will host the debate.

Live streaming on CNBC.com

Candidates participating:



TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: brownback; chrismatthews; cnbc; dearborn; debate; debate2007; duncanhunter; elections2008; fredthompson; giuliani; gopdebate; hunter; johnmccain; matthews; mccain; mi2008; michigan; mikehuckabee; mittromney; msnbc; paul; paulestinians; presidentialdebate; republican; republicandebate; romney; ronpaul; rudygiuliani; sambrownback; spartansixdelta; tancredo; thompson; tomtancredo
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To: SoCalPol

LOL!!

other than the fact that he is from BOSTON?????


1,961 posted on 10/09/2007 8:10:39 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (When will the leftist elites finally award Bill Clinton with the Nobel "Piece" Prize?)
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To: NordP

Took a call from Mom...lost about a 1/2 hour....did I miss anything???

Yes there is some breaking news...Just in....Keith Oberman wont be voting for Fred Thompson???


1,962 posted on 10/09/2007 8:10:59 PM PDT by thepresidentsbestfriend (God Bless Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter, and Huck.)
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To: mdittmar

;-)


1,963 posted on 10/09/2007 8:12:13 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (When will the leftist elites finally award Bill Clinton with the Nobel "Piece" Prize?)
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To: eeevil conservative

WELL said. You are so right.


1,964 posted on 10/09/2007 8:12:16 PM PDT by NordP (If illegal alien = "undocumented immigrant" then drug dealer = "unlicensed pharmacist")
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To: Rennes Templar

Had to get his digs in.

Thompson will be fine. Would like to see the field shrink a little, but that will come.


1,965 posted on 10/09/2007 8:12:39 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Take your silver spoon and dig your grave)
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To: thepresidentsbestfriend

ha ha ha ha -— good one. What a JERK KO is.


1,966 posted on 10/09/2007 8:12:54 PM PDT by NordP (If illegal alien = "undocumented immigrant" then drug dealer = "unlicensed pharmacist")
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To: SoCalPol

LOL!!!!

;-)

but I like mixed drinks!!!

;-)


1,967 posted on 10/09/2007 8:13:05 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (When will the leftist elites finally award Bill Clinton with the Nobel "Piece" Prize?)
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To: NordP

just carrrying on the attitude of a fellow FReeper!!

;-)

YOU ROCK!!


1,968 posted on 10/09/2007 8:14:25 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (When will the leftist elites finally award Bill Clinton with the Nobel "Piece" Prize?)
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To: eeevil conservative
Yeah you have a point. ALL the intellectual vigor and serious discussion of ideas is on our side. On the Democrats side it all about “What can I promise to give you so you will vote for me” or “How can I scapegoat someone for our failure to ever keep any of our promises”
1,969 posted on 10/09/2007 8:14:32 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Just watched the entire thing. My candidate-by candidate opinion piece:

Overall: None of the candidates lost or earned any supporters from this debate, IMHO...there were just too many of them. Since we had so many there, there just wasn’t opportunity either for anyone to screw up royally (save for lunatic Ron Paul, more about that later) or knock it out of the park, either. Decent, watchable debate, not a snoozefest, not a whooping fist-pumper either.

Fred Thompson: Fred did very well. Not a grand-slam but he delivered well and had his facts straight. He scored extra points for the well-placed jabs at the commentators/talking heads. He gave the most reasonable answers on China and the Middle East of anyone, realizing the threat without coming across as protectionist. Looked “fine” as in he looked like he always does. Good delivery, smiled, able to laugh at himself after Romney’s rather innocent dig at him at the end. Overall grade: A-

John McCain: Some said Fred looked “old, tired” blah blah...if anyone looked old and tired it was McCain. He had poor delivery, shifty answers, and just didn’t really do much of anything. Overall grade: C-

Duncan Hunter: Very good performance as well. Was impressive overall, I like that even with his disagreements he agreed to support the eventual nominee. Sounded a bit far-off and protectionist on certain things, but I still maintain he’s a brilliant man who’d make a good Secretary of Defense under Fred. :) Overall grade: B+

Tom Tancredo: Honestly, the Tanc rather impressed me, moreso than I imagined he would...even got a little dig in at himself about mentioning illegals so much, I chuckled at that. Didn’t have as much in the way of facts and figures as I’d expect, and was rather dull. Overall grade: B

Rudy Giuliani: Decent command of the facts, didn’t harp too much on 9/11 except when Ron Paul made his *ridiculous* statement about the US never being attacked by a foreign nation. Tried too hard to let it slip in that he has fought against the Clintons. Impressed me more than I’d have expected but that’s not saying much. Overall grade: B

Mitt Romney. Did extremely well in a delivery and fact-checking standpoint, but still too slick to be completely trusted. I thought he played well off of Fred Thompson, enough so that I’d consider him a great VP candidate, or a backup for my primary vote if something happens to Fred between now and then. Good humor, used his numbers well, looked good, but then again that’s what Mitt seems to do well. The package. Overall grade: A-

Ron Paul: The lunatic of the group. Couldn’t get off his “monetary system, military-industrial complex, leftist moonbat on defense” rant. Acted like an escapee from a mental institution. Overall grade: D+. Not an “F” strictly because he was entertaining.

Sam Brownback: Has learned a few things about economics since I last heard him talk. Delivery was so-so, seemed well-rounded, but overall not a standout. Overall grade: C+

Mike Huckabee: More impressive than I’ve seen him. Good tax ideas. Seems to have improved his game. Still a nanny-stater. Overall grade: B-


1,970 posted on 10/09/2007 8:15:22 PM PDT by RockinRight (Can we start calling Fred "44" now, please?)
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To: eeevil conservative

What is it ws FR gals and Minn. guys?
And, all on the Levin thread


1,971 posted on 10/09/2007 8:15:41 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: MEGoody
>>>”Paul sounds like he is on the edge of hysteria”>>>

Exactly what I just told my husband who is out of town and didn’t hear the debates. Paul comes across like a cranky fussy old grouch. He looks down at the floor when he talks instead of at the audience. “uh oh grandpa’s dinner was late and he is throwing a hissy fit”.

Poor Ron what a waste of time and money.

1,972 posted on 10/09/2007 8:16:05 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: MNJohnnie

BINGO!!!

people are getting wiser to the rhetoric....despite the MSM....

we just need to not give in to the MSM kool-aid

like any great revolution....one heart, one mind at a time...


1,973 posted on 10/09/2007 8:16:10 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (When will the leftist elites finally award Bill Clinton with the Nobel "Piece" Prize?)
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To: NordP

I can’t WAIT till Dancing with the Stars is on...I’m getting really peeved listening to Chrissy and the others pontificate over OUR candidates....grrrh~


1,974 posted on 10/09/2007 8:16:36 PM PDT by NordP (If illegal alien = "undocumented immigrant" then drug dealer = "unlicensed pharmacist")
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To: eeevil conservative
Curious what you think about Huckabee now. I hate to say it but he comes off like George Bush Jr. A basically good guy who is hooked on the “Big Govt is the answer” bug.
1,975 posted on 10/09/2007 8:16:41 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/ vrs the "Worse than Watergate Congress")
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To: eeevil conservative

What does a sideways smiley face mean?


1,976 posted on 10/09/2007 8:16:59 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: SoCalPol

common values???


1,977 posted on 10/09/2007 8:17:56 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (When will the leftist elites finally award Bill Clinton with the Nobel "Piece" Prize?)
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To: upsdriver

Not at all, one of the main shortcomings of this administration was failing to defeat the leftist media that subverted the war effort and sided with the terrorists.
I include Christopher Matthews among those enemies of America. A President has to lead the fight against those terrorist sympathizers successfully.


1,978 posted on 10/09/2007 8:19:14 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson)
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To: eeevil conservative

I think Hunter was great!


1,979 posted on 10/09/2007 8:19:21 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: MNJohnnie

I like him....think he is a personable and honest....

just disagree with him... he thinks it is gov’t job to change our behaviors....save us from ourselves....

he sees solving all the ills as the ticket to re-election....

kinda like MOTS POLITICIANS!


1,980 posted on 10/09/2007 8:19:34 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (When will the leftist elites finally award Bill Clinton with the Nobel "Piece" Prize?)
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