Posted on 10/04/2007 4:14:11 PM PDT by SubGeniusX
I have real issues about lying and have raised my kids not to.
That said, when we’ve started reading about surveys and questions like this at the doctor’s office, I told them that I didn’t mind if they didn’t tell the truth; give them safe answers, no matter how confidential and anonymous it’s supposed to be. DO NOT divulge ANY information that could alert the authorities to anything.
Since the questionaires are nothing but information collecting devices and not really people, it doesn’t really matter.
My father was a doctor. People who do this sort of thing are technicians not doctors.
Who's collecting all this 'medical' data now with their HIPAA privacy protections?
When Jon & Nick were in school they sent a paper home for us to sign allowing them to question the kids about drug abuse etc in the home. I called the school up & said ask me & I will be happy to answer your questions. They had none to ask.
I have no problem with firing drs either. I quite enjoy it. I remember when Sassy was going into kindergarten & needed her check up. That quack dr thought she might have Autism because she knew each of the 50 states & their capitals. He insisted we get her hearing checked too. I told him ever hear of leap pad? I was right there in the d@mn room & he tells her he has to check her privates. I said wtf for & he said it was standard. I said no its not in my book. He was pushing my buttons and insisted on a quick look. He questioned her if anyone touched her & she got mad. She said I know how to wash myself. When we left she said I don't like that man. I fired him asap. And I left a terrible rating on rateMDs.com. I asked her new dr if that exam was part of the standard kindergarten physical & she said no. I truly hate that man.
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As I said before; if their loyalty lies with the state they are not doctors they are merely technicians. Regardless of what degrees they hold or what modalities they are skilled in. Being a doctor is not just about knowledge and skill. Medicine is called an art for a reason. The healing arts require a mindset epitomized by the old hippocratic oath which is no longer a part of most curriculums and thus not a part of their practice. A real doctor is a real healer and a healer has no loyalty other than to the patient and the practice.
I really POed a 'doctor' on FR some time back. He was spouting some silly PC nonsense about medicine, I forget the specifics now, and I flat told him he was no doctor he was only a technician. I meant it and I drove the point in as hard as I could. I knew a real doctor for the first 30 years of my life. I know the difference and the contrast is stark and undeniable.
FReepers are always good at detecting phonies.
That “doctor” needs a visit from the men in blue.
First, there’s no reason for a 13 year old to be questioned privately by a pediatrician, as in this article. A parent should have been present.
About 5-6 years ago, the gun question came up during a pediatrician visit. I’d already been alerted to the issue from FR.
I told the doc that I didn’t think he was qualified by training or experience to advise us on firearms safety, and unless he could convince me otherwise (which he couldn’t, didn’t even try to do), that I saw the question as a professional boundary violation, which is a very serious thing.
He got a little huffy and told me it wasn’t, but he dropped the whole thing pretty much immediately.
There’s a nice questionnaire on this topic that the Second Amendment Sisters have. Here, found it:
http://www.2asisters.org/education/PhysicianAffidavit.pdf
Everyone who might be faced with a physician or educator asking nosy questions about firearms, should have that document handy, and have read it.
pandy is raising a woman to be reckoned with I have no doubt of that.
Some pediatricians want to know if there is a gun in the home.
They can kiss my ass.
What are they going to do about it? You didn’t do anything wrong. Tell them “Get off my property and leave my children alone, or I’ll have you arrested.”
Thank you! The vast majority of the population doesn't grasp this. In fact they applauded it (smoking bans everywhere)and continue to do so. Once the Nanny Staters realized how easy it was to get people to give up their rights and freedoms it's been downhill like an avalanche over the past 15 or so years. I honestly hate the weak people who allow themselves to be turned into slaves of the state. The biggest losers are the leftists who claim that Bush is "taking away freedoms". It has been the left that has been doing this and now republicans think it is "good politics" to go along also. I don't know if you read the thread about companies not hiring, or firing people who smoke. Now they are refusing to hire people who are fat, or use alcohol, because of insurance costs. It's going to have to give at some point. People keep talking about a second civil war. I wonder if that is what it will come to. The average American is so pathetic that they would probably welcome police going door to door looking for guns or tobacco or trans fats or computers that have politically incorrect websites on them.
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That is ridiculous! Kids aren’t always honest and they also aren’t mature enough to be reporting on their parent’s behavior. Also suggestive questions can lead to wrong answers. Plus I would think that it would be damaging to the child to introduce these types of subjects (weapons, alcohol and drug abuse, sexual abuse) to young children who wouldn’t otherwise be doubtful of their parents. This sort of crap is very bad for the family IMHO, where alot depends on kids trusting their parents. This is mind-boggling and I can’t believe this would hold up in court.
A little off-topic, but a good illustration of abuse of power.
Here in Pennsylvania, the DOT is examining driver license records to find people who have a CDL and a clean record. Then they send those people job offers to come work for the DOT.
If you are unaware, there is a driver shortage in the trucking industry. The commonwealth is under fire from the trucking industry for this tactic, but the officals all just shrug their shoulders and claim it is their privilege.
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