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MADD plans to go on patrol for DUIs
St. Petersburg Times (tampabay.com) ^ | September 29, 2007 | ABBIE VANSICKLE

Posted on 10/01/2007 6:37:03 PM PDT by elkfersupper

TAMPA - Had a few drinks before getting behind the wheel?

Think again. That harmless-looking minivan in the rearview mirror might be the neighbors on patrol.

That's how Mothers Against Drunk Driving pitched its latest plan to get impaired drivers off the roads.

Called the Traffic Observation Program, the pilot program is slated to begin in Hillsborough County and may become a statewide initiative, according to Don Murray, Florida's executive director for MADD.

The plan: Recruit 20 volunteers armed with donated cell phones and send them out in the middle of the night to watch for telltale signs of drunk drivers.

MADD has worked closely with the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office, so Murray suggested to other MADD members that the pilot program begin here.

Murray envisions a program that will pair up community members who are willing to go through a screening process, including a criminal background check and an interview to ensure that those going out on the streets have proper training and experience.

He wanted to make it clear that volunteers will not be acting like law enforcement.

"This isn't like a vigilante program," he said. "They won't be attempting to stop or in any way interacting with these vehicles. They're basically just observers."

Volunteers will go out in teams. They will drive their own vehicles and take GPS equipment, so they'll be able to find their way through unfamiliar areas for two to four hours of searching, Murray said. They'll be told ahead of time of the sometimes-subtle clues for drunk drivers, such as driving under the speed limit or lingering too long at a green light, Murray said.

"We certainly don't want our observers to be calling erroneous reports in," he said.

If participants spot a suspicious driver, they will jot down the license plate, a vehicle description and a location and notify the Sheriff's Office. It's up to the deputy to check out the vehicle to determine whether an arrest is appropriate, Murray said.

The program was Murray's idea, he said, inspired by worries of what potential budget cuts could do to law enforcement's DUI teams.

"They'll likely lose officers from the road," he said. "We were looking ahead to try to see what our organization can do."

Hillsborough sheriff's Cpl. Stephen Decatur said the program is just a formalized process for what already happens everyday: People call law enforcement when they see something suspicious.

He praised the idea, but he cautioned that it's vital that volunteers don't try to do the work of law enforcement in apprehending and accusing suspects.

"If anybody's overzealous, if they play outside the guidelines, then they're acting above and beyond just being observers," he said. "We want them to do it in a responsible manner, and it looks like the program is set up to do that."

Tampa police Cpl. Jared Douds had much the same reaction. It sounded like a Neighborhood Watch group for the roadways.

"Obviously anything that's going to get drunk drivers off the road, we're interested in," Douds. "That's certainly a positive for everybody."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cellphoneequals08; dui; dwi; madd; neoprohibition
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To: Myrddin
Don't drink and drive. They won't have any means of bothering you.

You are naive.

I don't drink and drive but some of the "signs" they are being taught to observe are things I do in my everyday driving.

When that light turns green, I do not jump on the gas pedal, I wait.......and I'm stone cold sober. As too speed limits, I drive per conditions. I drive on many road that have no business having a 55mph speed limit.

One of these MADD mothers calls me in for driving properly, there is goig to be some heck to pay.

61 posted on 10/01/2007 7:51:05 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Myrddin

On second thoughts, I read your page. Repeat after me... breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe out. Repeat as needed.

Just in case you forget.

</ uberhypersarc>


62 posted on 10/01/2007 7:51:39 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (In regards to Ron Paul, Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889318/posts)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
God help us if that wasn’t missing the < /sarc> tag.

The poster is either a cop or hasn't had any "contact" with LEO lately.

If the former, no mercy. If the latter, their turn will come.

63 posted on 10/01/2007 7:52:33 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Myrddin
As long as they aren't interfering with law enforcement doing their job, they are neutral observers. Court rooms are public places. They are free to quietly observe there as well.

Are you so naive to believe that prosecutors and judges (who must stand for election or retention) aren't intimidated by these geurilla tactics?

Sheeesh!

64 posted on 10/01/2007 7:56:21 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
And what about all of the nervous nellies out there who refuse to start from a green light until every car coming from a different direction comes to a complete stop?

Call me a nervous nellie, but I'm one of those types. I've had far too many close calls.

Heck, I did it just this evening after picking my daughter and her friend up.....and a good thing I did. I hesitated when the light turned green and don't you know an 18wheeler blew through the light.

65 posted on 10/01/2007 7:57:10 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: elkfersupper

I read her page and it is actually option 2 with a sprinkling of a room temp bell curve placement. She doesn’t have any clue as to the luminosity or lack thereof of her bulb in the marquee, and seems extremely sweet and extremely naive. Sure she is a sweet thing, but wouldn’t want to have too long a conversation with her or her fairy tale thinking.


66 posted on 10/01/2007 8:00:19 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (In regards to Ron Paul, Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889318/posts)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
If you aren't drinking, they won't be trying to nail you for DUI. There is a nearly endless list of other forms of probable cause. Headlights, tail lights, cracked windshields, improperly affixed registration tags, missing license plates, overly tinted glass, missing mirrors or bald tires. That's just for a start. The local cops are familiar with the habitual drunks, druggies and thieves. They employ the common list of PC, then add driving without a license, driving on a suspended license, driving without insurance, driving without a seatbelt. Wants and warrants frequently show up on such stops. I thoroughly familiar with the process. My wife is a dispatcher. I volunteer as a COP when the city has events that demand more people than we have sworn officers to cover. If you enjoy competition handgun shooting, you'll love picking off a speeding vehicle with a LIDAR at 1000 yards. You can get an excellent return off a headlight or license plate. It's much better than the microwave RADAR units.
67 posted on 10/01/2007 8:01:32 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: elkfersupper
There's a sinister, creepy aspect to this.

It's a dress rehearsal for turning in your neighbors for "suspicious" behavior, and not a good direction for a free society.

68 posted on 10/01/2007 8:01:58 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Myrddin

“The local cops are familiar with the habitual drunks, druggies and thieves.”

Ahem.... Suppose I date a cops ex wife. Make me fair game too?

You are a dim bulb hun. A brown shirt. You don’t think for yourself. You lack grasp.


69 posted on 10/01/2007 8:04:58 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (In regards to Ron Paul, Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889318/posts)
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To: panzer_grey

I’m truly sorry for your loss. I am sure it was a horrible thing to go through.

However, that does not give anyone the right to tell me I can not hesitate at a light, or not drive the speed limit if I am not comfortable with it even though I have not been drinking. This policy of “signs” of impaired driving for reporting purposes tells me both Hillsborough County and MADD are encouraging to people to drive in ways they normally wouldn’t in order to avoid being pulled over or otherwise scrutinized.


70 posted on 10/01/2007 8:06:56 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
You are a dim bulb hun. A brown shirt. You don’t think for yourself. You lack grasp.

You're down to ad hominem attacks. Fine. I have work to do.

71 posted on 10/01/2007 8:07:23 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: elkfersupper; Gabz

Don’t drink and drive. They won’t have any means of bothering you.


Getting tired of that comment on FR? I am. This is a slight variation of “If you aren’t doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.”


72 posted on 10/01/2007 8:09:48 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("We just can't trust the American people to make the correct choices."-Hillary)
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To: Myrddin

You sound like another one of those “if you have nothing to hide...” androids.


73 posted on 10/01/2007 8:09:50 PM PDT by Nik Naym (If Republicans are your problem, Democrats aren't the answer!)
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To: Myrddin

OMG you are a guy??????? Holly heck.... you so come across as a woman. How appropriate. I think you should change your screen name from that farcical name to one more accurate. Half Wit Intern Wannabe Cop Panties In A Wad.

Please leave real stuff to real cops. Isn’t there a crossing guard or mall cop somewhere needing an assistant?


74 posted on 10/01/2007 8:11:05 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (In regards to Ron Paul, Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889318/posts)
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To: steel_resolve

Please see my above post.


75 posted on 10/01/2007 8:11:38 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("We just can't trust the American people to make the correct choices."-Hillary)
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To: Myrddin

TADA...... Barney Fife back on patrol!!!!


76 posted on 10/01/2007 8:13:14 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (In regards to Ron Paul, Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889318/posts)
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To: Myrddin

And there’s yet another variation on it. We’re headed for a ‘snitch’ society, I guess. And a lot of FReepers will apparently welcome it with open arms.


77 posted on 10/01/2007 8:15:45 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("We just can't trust the American people to make the correct choices."-Hillary)
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To: Madame Dufarge
I do the same here in my little corner of Maine, where apparently a red light is considered to be a personal affront by more than a few.

The main "street" in this area is US RTE 13........the few traffic lights we have seem to be a personal affront to EVERYONE. I am going to make sure everyone is at a standstill before I enter the danged intersection, and if the folks behind me don't like it -- too bloody bad about them because that slight hesitation on my part could very well save their lives if I get through that intersection before the idiot not stopping does.

78 posted on 10/01/2007 8:19:51 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney
He She or whatever isn’t a thinking Freeper. Almost all Freepers are solid thinkers. I love to go look back through old posts when I run into someone with this lack of intellect. Hours of fun looking at idiotic comments. It is terrible of me to to actually laugh when reading their older comments, but hey. Since the Ron Paulistinians showed up it is easy, but before that it was much more rare for me to find these dunces.

Viva La Not Putting Up With Stupid People, Crooks Or Duplicitous Politicians.

79 posted on 10/01/2007 8:22:28 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (In regards to Ron Paul, Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889318/posts)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney; elkfersupper
We’re headed for a ‘snitch’ society, I guess.

HEADED FOR? Are you daft, my good friend? We've long been there.

And a lot of FReepers will apparently welcome it with open arms.

Not will, already have.........

80 posted on 10/01/2007 8:29:35 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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