Posted on 09/22/2007 6:21:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble
WEARE A father attacked his daughter's boyfriend last week after learning the boy had sex with the underage girl, police said.
It was about 1:30 p.m. Monday, Sept. 10, when the man stormed onto the grounds of John J. Stark High School and beat up the 17-year-old from Henniker. School was just letting out, and many students witnessed the attack, said Detective Lou Chatel.
The boy suffered bruising and later received two stitches to his face.
The father was charged with simple assault, a Class B felony.
Police said the boy is dating the man's 15-year-old daughter.
The man discovered the two had had sex earlier that day, during school hours but not on school property, police said.
Under state law, a 15-year-old cannot consent to sex; therefore, police are investigating the allegation as a sexual assault.
The New Hampshire Union Leader has a policy of not identifying sexual assault victims. For that reason, the newspaper is not identifying the father.
Both students attend John Stark High School. The girl lives in Weare.
Chatel said there have been no arrests in the sex case, but he expects there will be.
What are your thoughts on what should have been done in this situation? Its pretty obvious that you dont agree with the father or myself.
Very good question.
My son and daughter and their friends did not 'pair off' in high school. They tended to do things in big, mixed groups. They had a lot of fun without the dangers of falling prey to hormonal urges. Most did not date until well into college, and then tended to stick to larger mixed groups until marriage was in the picture.
“I appreciate the wikipedia lookup.”
No clue what that means.
I’ve already provided a short answer. Also, teach your girls to have nothing to do with boys who can’t behave appropriately, and who don’t have their emotions under control. All teen boys aren’t hormone driven robots with no self-control. Some do know how to respect girls and not try to push beyond what a girl considers appropriate. Others don’t know how to do that, and girls should not date guys who can’t control their emotions, temper or desires. And they should tolerate NO instance of any guy trying to use his greater size and strength to get his was.
What they might do consensually, that’s another subject.
With the choice comes the responsibility, ya know.
“I take it then you believe that most aspects of parenting should be dealt with by the law, and if they arent now, we need to evolve the constitution and our legal system to deal with things not yet covered?”
I’ve said nothing remotely like that, and my whole string of posts in this thread has advocated that teens who are close in age should be equally responsible for their own decisions, and not be governed by age of consent laws.
Incitement to violence is also illegal...
Thats what the punk did so the Dad should walk..
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What ever happened to simply walking over to the girl’s house and meeting her parents? And she could meet the guy’s parents. When the parents meet each other, the guy and girl can have sneaky little white lies together.
With the choice comes the responsibility, ya know.
No argument with what you write here. Just take issue with the notion that her life is ruined. She made a very bad choice and she will suffer consequences for her mistake. But ruined for life is a little drastic. She can redeem herself.
Incidentally, I like the way you do not mix words when describing the actions of a boy's choice. Harsh but true.
sounds like good advice ..kudos to you
“No argument with what you write here. Just take issue with the notion that her life is ruined. She made a very bad choice and she will suffer consequences for her mistake. But ruined for life is a little drastic. She can redeem herself.”
There’s so much we don’t know. They might be a serious couple. This boy might be the love of her life who she plans to and will later marry. They might have been sexually active for months or a year or more, or she might be the town slut and the boy just wanted his turn for the first time. He might be the schools most ‘successful’ young stud. Or neither might have ever had sex with anyone else.
But I knew couples sexually active in their mid teens, the same age and different age, who later married, had several fine children and are still apparently happily married decades later.
The most traumatic event of her life might be that her dad barged into her dream relationship and created this chaos, and has put her boyfriend in danger of prison.
So much we don’t know.
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
Very well said.
The real division in this thread--and on this forum, for that matter--is between those who think morals matter and those who figure that sexual desires of whatever type need to satisfied ASAP.
Agree entirely. I understand the dad's reaction, but I remember being a kid as well. Once upon a time the "authorities" might have said that this matter was best left as is, but now they will have to pursue charges against both the kid and the dad. I don't see how sending either of them to jail will help matters at all.
“The real division in this thread—and on this forum, for that matter—is between those who think morals matter and those who figure that sexual desires of whatever type need to satisfied ASAP.”
I’d say the real division concerns what moral standards (and whose) should be enforced by law, and which should be left to the freely made decisions of the individuals involved.
Id say the real division concerns what moral standards (and whose) should be enforced by law, and which should be left to the freely made decisions of the individuals involved.
In addition, there's a divide between those who think the law should be enforced uniformly v. those who believe exceptions should be made when (in their opinion) vigilante justice is appropriate.
Well said, sir. Your children are blessed, too.
Age of consent laws (apparently sixteen in NH) that make it statutory rape between two high school students only two years apart in age are ridiculous.
Not at all..
To begin with age of consent laws that do not coincide with age of Majority Laws are horrible laws..
Such laws are self serving as Elected Officials, Prosecutors, Teachers and their friends legally use their money and positions to have sex with as many young girls (boys?) as they can talk out of their pants. (tell me the law doesn’t allow that)
Yet the Parents are still liable for the consequences of these actions.. The child’s education, health care and psychological well being.
The laws need to be amended to raise the age of consent to coincide with the age of majority..
Not further diluted and weakened.
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“In addition, there’s a divide between those who think the law should be enforced uniformly v. those who believe exceptions should be made when (in their opinion) vigilante justice is appropriate.”
Yep. Webster’s broad definition of a vigilante: “a self-appointed doer of justice.”
That’s exactly what this father was doing, dispensing his version of justice to the boy who had consensual sex with his daughter.
I asked before, do we all get to pick an area where we think our idea of justice is better than the law, then go out and dispense justice?
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